is it possible...my friend and i have a bet going..and if it is possible how can i

 

Beat it how? Drag, road course, autox? There are all sorts of ways to "beat" another car all depends on what you're wanting it to do.

 

Tune and intercooler...you'll be able to keep up with a stock one

 

Rwd

 

learn to drive better than your friend

 

Definitely depends in what way you mean by keep up. The easiest way to compare would be power/weight ratio. Your mini would need around 215whp to be comparable to a stock 335i. Definitely achievable.

 

Right, depends on what you mean by "keep up". If you were in central TX, I would assume you mean straight line. But since you are in SoCal (lucky!), do you mean in the canyons? On a track? I would think the MINI would be a blast on the Streets of Willow!

 

Curious why you associate central Texas to straight line? I live in San Antonio (south central Texas) and we have planty of twisties here and very nearby. Central Texas is hill country.

 

If he can mod his car too, you are going to have a really hard time especially on straight line acceleration.

 

you could add some $$$ to your monthly payment and get a 335

but id start with saying some good tires and at least a nice tune.

 

A small jet engine?

My previous car was a 335 and now own an S - sorry - don't see it happening. (Coincidentally, also live in North Hollywood.) 0-60 time has to be at least a second slower, it just doesn't feel like it. You can probably feel better knowing that as great as the 335 engine is it is prone to a lot of problems. I got it - wait for his High Pressure Fuel pump to go into limp mode and floor it. Just a thought. ;-)

 

You'd need to do a lot if you're looking to beat it in a drag race.

I'd start with the things that would help everyday like lighter wheels and high-performance tires. Then move to a tune, intercooler, cai, and exhaust. You could keep going to a new turbo or modding the engine internals...but you'll quickly run into diminishing returns since the front wheels are going to be overpowered and not be able to put the power down effectively.

 

Because I lived in SoCal for a few years before I moved to the Austin area, at the time my main vehicle was a 1990 Honda Hawk GT. And while the hill country is pretty, the twisties are not of the same caliber. Before CA, I lived in NC and visited the Dragon whenever I could... woohoo!!!

So you are right, there are twisties in central TX, but not twisty enough where I could see having to modify a stock MINI to take them at sane speeds. Unlike dragging your bike's pegs on a 15 MPH corner

 

I'm another ex 335i owner. On a nice tight track, and if you do some basic suspension mods, you got him. 335i handles good but in a ponderous manner. MCS is light and quick.

 

You need to get out more.

I have a highly modified MINI and have found plenty of places that challenge it's ability. Now if you had said west Texas, I'd have no problem with equating that with straight line!

 

Yeah that or Florida...lol. Them some flat azz roads...

 

We likeum that way. The biggest hills around are the overpasses on the interstate.

 

LOL, yeah and with 20 state troopers standing on the edge.


Mark

 

East and Southeast Texas also, man I love visiting the hill country when I can.

 

With basic mod's an S will be as fast as a 335...at least mine was. Time and time again my friends 335 could not pass me, we were always dead even. That was with tune+intercooler+exhaust. Now with my bigger turbo, I can beat them all day long...that is assuming they are on a stock tune. Tuned 335s are monsters.

 

I run a BMW performance group in NC and I am in the same situation being that i sold my 3 and got a mcs. Most of my friends run jb3 and jb4 with other add on mods also.. but power to weight ratio is 250whp mini is the equivalent of a moderately tuned 335i coupe with 360hp.

Moderately tuned 335i example (JB3 on map 5-7, Downpipes, Injen Dual Intake, diverter valves.. That vehicle will put 360whp out) then the second issue is getting power to the pavement. My car can not keep traction in first or second gear if i floor it...

just a little BMW info.

 

Another previous 335i owner here! I rrpeally think the 335 is one of the best all around cars aside from poor reliability with hpfp.

MINI's are a blast but straight line, with just a tune, he is at 370 hp. That's tough to beat in our Cooper on an average budget for a daily driver.

 

Just a tune 370whp? Impressive.. The one we had dynoed at competition auto in NC dropped 360whp but the fastest guy in our group is putting well over 400 to the wheels in a 1 series. Yet again an amazing power to weight ratio.

He had some money to play, he went from a maserati to the BMW 1.

 

How to beat the driver of a modded 335? Start with a 2x4...

It ain't gonna happen.

 

I meant 370bhp... probably 335-345whp with a tune only.

I remember reading (when in the forums over there) that the 335 actually has something more like 330hp stock, not the 300 they claim. It has approximately 300whp stock I believe... maybe someone can correct me, but either way, unless you're on a track or in the twisties our fwd mini coopers aren't much competition.