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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rrcaniglia
You know, from aeromed classes I learned that it isn't asphyxiation that is the biggest factor here, it's the mental impairment that comes from milder exposure. You think you're OK, but you do dumb things. Like buzz driving. Slow brain function. If nothing demands much thought, you get along fine. Let some jerk wander into your lane or run a light and --oops--you weren't paying attention.
I'm the same way, because I found out during my Navy flight training that I'm particularly resistant to all the *obvious* signs of hypoxia. Whenever we do the altitude chamber exercise, the instructors lower the oxygen content to the equivalent of flying at 25,000 feet in an unpressurized cabin and see how long the students last. Long after the rest of the students pass out, get the giggles, go colourblind or lose all hand-eye coordination, I can still do word-search puzzles, recite the phonetic alphabet, play pat-a-cake with the instructors (who are on oxygen masks by this point), or any of the other mindless exercises they use to check for the signs of hypoxia.

That makes me particularly dangerous in the plane, because if we ever lose cabin pressurization, I'll be the last one to notice it, and all the while, my higher brain functions and decision-making skills will be rapidly deteriorating and I'll have no clue, much like a driver that think he's "fine after a couple of beers" because he can still read the street signs and operate a stickshift.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Well, I'm not flying, anymore, so me, too.

But I do it after getting an assured supply of fresh air.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by miniclubman
Not sure how you can diagnose carbon monoxide poisoning based on the OP post. I frequently haul long items in my Clubman be simply keeping one or both rear barn doors open. I also keep both front windows open, and the sunroof open, as well. As long as there's plenty of fresh air coming in the front of the car, I think your concerns are overblown.
+1 if you keep the front windows open, the air flows from front to back. If you leave the front windows closed, the carbon will flow into the cabin from the rear.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
I'm the same way, because I found out during my Navy flight training that I'm particularly resistant to all the *obvious* signs of hypoxia. Whenever we do the altitude chamber exercise, the instructors lower the oxygen content to the equivalent of flying at 25,000 feet in an unpressurized cabin and see how long the students last. Long after the rest of the students pass out, get the giggles, go colourblind or lose all hand-eye coordination, I can still do word-search puzzles, recite the phonetic alphabet, play pat-a-cake with the instructors (who are on oxygen masks by this point), or any of the other mindless exercises they use to check for the signs of hypoxia.

That makes me particularly dangerous in the plane, because if we ever lose cabin pressurization, I'll be the last one to notice it, and all the while, my higher brain functions and decision-making skills will be rapidly deteriorating and I'll have no clue, much like a driver that think he's "fine after a couple of beers" because he can still read the street signs and operate a stickshift.

I would think this "skill" would be a good thing. By then, you would have figured out something was wrong and descended to a safe altitude, no?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
I'm the same way, because I found out during my Navy flight training that I'm particularly resistant to all the *obvious* signs of hypoxia. <...< and I'll have no clue, much like a driver that think he's "fine after a couple of beers" because he can still read the street signs and operate a stickshift.
How true the above is.
Originally Posted by SmokeM
I would think this "skill" would be a good thing. By then, you would have figured out something was wrong and descended to a safe altitude, no?
There are far too many 'Smokey Holes' left by aircraft to prove ScottRiqui's point.

And that is dealing with simple hypoxia, the thread here is dealing with Carbon Monoxide Poisoning and that has a far less chance of recovery.
 
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