R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (R56) hatchback discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

R56 Why the hell do the new MINIs look so bloated?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:08 PM
  #51  
okay's Avatar
okay
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Ken Cooper
The pedestrian safety issue isn't so important in the U.S. as it is in much of Europe where the ratio of pedestrians to cars is MUCH higher than here.

By the way, I and most of the people I know like the way the new MINI Cooper looks. Sorry you are so unsettled by the changes.

Here's a link that describes even more of what you would call idiotic safety stuff that was so much a factor in the MINI Cooper structural changes:

http://miniology.com/?p=60
If the pedestrian safety issue is important in a huge marketplace such as Europe, it's important everywhere.

So can someone explain why the new hood scoops are fake? That's a question that's been overlooked. Sorry, I have to continue my "MINI-bashing."

Originally Posted by chows4us
Wasn't TVR just sold?

No ... Porsche follows all EU regulations ... you can take that to the bank including things like sound regulations and new emission standards. In fact they are proud of that in their annoucements quoting how they are ahead of the regulations.
Porsche won't complain since the new laws don't really apply to them. They're safe, until some new law comes about that says cars with intakes on the sides are a threat to cyclists because their foot might get caught in them.
 

Last edited by okay; May 15, 2007 at 04:11 PM.
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:10 PM
  #52  
chows4us's Avatar
chows4us
6th Gear
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,478
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by okay
If the pedestrian safety issue is important in a huge marketplace such as Europe, it's important everywhere.

So can someone explain why the new hood scoops are fake? That's a question that's been overlooked. Sorry, I have to continue my "MINI-bashing."
I really don't know but probably for the reason MINI put a "fake" burble in the exhaust in the older cars ... fashion?
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:12 PM
  #53  
okay's Avatar
okay
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by chows4us
I really don't know but probably for the reason MINI put a "fake" burble in the exhaust in the older cars ... fashion?
Wow. Just... wow.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:14 PM
  #54  
chows4us's Avatar
chows4us
6th Gear
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,478
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by okay
Wow. Just... wow.
A lot of people loved the fake burble ... but I think MINI has taken out because the masses did not ... more refined
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:19 PM
  #55  
OttoMannS's Avatar
OttoMannS
Banned
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Okay, I see now that you did it for the lulz!
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:23 PM
  #56  
OttoMannS's Avatar
OttoMannS
Banned
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by chows4us
A lot of people loved the fake burble ... but I think MINI has taken out because the masses did not ... more refined
The US masses you mean. The Euro masses retained the burble.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:31 PM
  #57  
chows4us's Avatar
chows4us
6th Gear
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,478
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by OttoMannS
The US masses you mean. The Euro masses retained the burble.
Yes, people here tend to forget sometimes that 20K "enthusiasts" are a small fraction of the 160K cars sold in the US. The masses find it an annoyance (much like the SC whine used to be) and clearly BMW answered.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:32 PM
  #58  
okay's Avatar
okay
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
So are they going to ban SUVs and brushguards too?
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:34 PM
  #59  
chows4us's Avatar
chows4us
6th Gear
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,478
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by okay
So are they going to ban SUVs and brushguards too?
They better not SUVs are the only thing keeping the US car makers afloat
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:40 PM
  #60  
daffodildeb's Avatar
daffodildeb
6th Gear
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,743
Likes: 5
From: Hot Springs Village, AR
Interesting that the MINI website features a growling bulldog in its opening frames--matches the stance of the R56 perfectly. I LIKE the aggressive look! (And I'm a girl... )

I don't like trolls, though.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 04:48 PM
  #61  
JT-KGY's Avatar
JT-KGY
2nd Gear
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: socal
Originally Posted by okay
95% of new cars look like absolute ****. Sorry you haven't noticed.
New Mini is the 5% of the new cars that actually shed weight compare
to it's prev models... It gained some length for the new engine.


Originally Posted by okay
Torque?
The new turbo engine really does have decent torque..

What do you drive anyways...?
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 05:43 PM
  #62  
JohnnyF's Avatar
JohnnyF
4th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Greenwood, IN
More cushion for the pushin' (in the twisties).
(Yes, I know the R56 is actually lighter)

To paraphrase Drederick Tatum of the Simpsons, MINI-on-MINI violence must end!
 

Last edited by JohnnyF; May 15, 2007 at 05:45 PM. Reason: More smileys
Old May 15, 2007 | 06:01 PM
  #63  
StGabriel's Avatar
StGabriel
2nd Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Beach, CA
I like the new MINI's look quite a bit.

You know what else I like? The fact that my wife and I recently survived a high speed collision (caused by a drunk driver in a situation where I had absolutely 0 control) almost entirely due to modern car design safety. It's one of those things where a little perspective goes a looooong way.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 06:12 PM
  #64  
MSFITOY's Avatar
MSFITOY
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 7,926
Likes: 40
From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by okay
I'm not sure whether or not it's just in my head since I don't own one of these cars, but my cousin does and I've been driving it quite a bit lately. Yesterday I went to the dealership to check out the prices of some stuff and they had a few new MINIs sitting around.

Honestly, to me it looks like it's so much bigger than the 1st generation. Also, the hood scoop on the new S is fake? What the ****? This is not a Mustang.

Something tells me that it's all a result of the idiotic new pedestrian safetly laws that are destined to destroy every car design from now until the end of the automobile (which I hope will never come).

Has anybody else noticed this?
It's because you have good eyes...
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 06:22 PM
  #65  
Fullpint's Avatar
Fullpint
3rd Gear
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Georgia
Originally Posted by okay
So can someone explain why the new hood scoops are fake? That's a question that's been overlooked. Sorry, I have to continue my "MINI-bashing."
The hood scoop is no longer functional, because the intercooler is no longer on top of the engine, and MINI wanted to keep the hood scoop to maintain the visual distinction between the Cooper and S models. Simple as that.

Some may call it fake, but the MINI designers saw it as heritage.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 06:51 PM
  #66  
MIN 18's Avatar
MIN 18
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 207
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Trinity07
My baby's got back, I like it

Nice personalized plates
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 06:56 PM
  #67  
JohnBLZ's Avatar
JohnBLZ
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
Originally Posted by okay
You're right, I am pretty frustrated with new cars in general. It's not just the designs, it's many other things. So I plan to keep my car as long as possible, and keep it as new as possible, until it eventually explodes one day. Then, depending on what's out on the market (maybe another TVR will come along, maybe Porsche will stay true, who knows) I may buy an older car or something new.

I'm not dissing your cars. Like I said, I could care less about the MINI. I'm just saying that I like the previous MINI's looks better than the new one. I'm sure it handles great and whatnot, just like the new 3 series handle better than the E46, but which one do I think has more character and style? You can guess.

Whether you all get butt-hurt because of that isn't really my problem.

Folks I think we have a GENUINE YUGO owner on our hands. He just can't handle this new fangled technology.

Seriously though...don't feed the trolls. He's gotten plenty of jollies off this thread.. let him recoup and move on.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 07:22 PM
  #68  
sdv515's Avatar
sdv515
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
From: ct
he is mad because someone just stole his ten speed. i am still trying to figure out why he felt the need to take time out of his busy day (obviously filled with writing letters to car designers telling them that what their doing is wrong) to search and find nam.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 09:00 PM
  #69  
at7815's Avatar
at7815
3rd Gear
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by sdv515
he is mad because someone just stole his ten speed. i am still trying to figure out why he felt the need to take time out of his busy day (obviously filled with writing letters to car designers telling them that what their doing is wrong) to search and find nam.
+1...I think we've given him enough attention. We should let him take his "bashing" somewhere else. I think his ignorance has gotten enough responses for a day. IMHO.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 09:56 PM
  #70  
familiarstranger's Avatar
familiarstranger
6th Gear
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, California
Originally Posted by at7815
+1...I think we've given him enough attention. We should let him take his "bashing" somewhere else. I think his ignorance has gotten enough responses for a day. IMHO.
I dont know maybe one more?
ahhhh there we go satisfied.
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 10:22 PM
  #71  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 4
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by okay
So can someone explain why the new hood scoops are fake? That's a question that's been overlooked. Sorry, I have to continue my "MINI-bashing."
They are not fake. The very first ones that came over were completely blocked. Mine, (13th week build), has a functional scoop. It lets cold air in while driving, and lets hot air escape over the turbo when sitting. If you had read this forum, instead of just dropping a troll, you would know that.

BTW, if you could care less about the new MINI, why are you here?
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 10:27 PM
  #72  
kgdblu's Avatar
kgdblu
6th Gear
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,555
Likes: 0
troll alert....
 
Old May 15, 2007 | 10:37 PM
  #73  
TheBigNewt's Avatar
TheBigNewt
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,602
Likes: 107
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
They are not fake. The very first ones that came over were completely blocked. Mine, (13th week build), has a functional scoop. It lets cold air in while driving, and lets hot air escape over the turbo when sitting. If you had read this forum, instead of just dropping a troll, you would know that.

Mine is quite functional, I can assure you of that. Scientifically proven in fact.
 
Old May 16, 2007 | 05:33 AM
  #74  
inomis's Avatar
inomis
4th Gear
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 454
Likes: 5
From: Williamsburg, VA
Originally Posted by okay
.

Something tells me that it's all a result of the idiotic new pedestrian safetly laws that are destined to destroy every car design from now until the end of the automobile (which I hope will never come).

Has anybody else noticed this?
The new bumper laws in the early 70's were destined to destroy car designs too. And they did for many years. This particular MINI change is very mild in comparison.
 
Old May 16, 2007 | 07:16 AM
  #75  
Larry Clemens's Avatar
Larry Clemens
5th Gear
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 836
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
The R56 looks like a MINI, only much uglier. However, I heard it has a great personality.
 



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:58 AM.