R55 Would you buy a Clubman if you didn't need the extra space?
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I bought mine for the extra space it has available. However I prefere the looks of the Clubman over the looks of a Hatchback anyway.
If you drive them both side by side (wife has a 2008 Hatchback), you will notice the extra weight of the Clubman. The Hatchback runs a little better due to the lack of 200 or so pounds.
Bottom line; the next MINI will be a Clubman again (space needed or not!!)
Happy Motoring.
If you drive them both side by side (wife has a 2008 Hatchback), you will notice the extra weight of the Clubman. The Hatchback runs a little better due to the lack of 200 or so pounds.
Bottom line; the next MINI will be a Clubman again (space needed or not!!)
Happy Motoring.
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My daughter was turning 16 and we had to get her a car. Not wanting an additional car note, I had to sell my '07 CR-V(family car) which I loved and the MC(fun weekend car) so we could get her an '08 Civic. So since I had to make my family car and weekend car one car, the Clubman worked perfectly. Since we are paying so much in taxes, I don't know if I will be able to get a Crossman that I was planning on getting when they are released. We will see....
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Small station wagons have always appealed to me, much more utility and practicality than your average small sedan. And, as a teenager, I was keen on the fact that the back seats would fold down and provide a little love nest for me and my sweeties.
Nowadays (at 53 yrs. old), those attributes are still important but I must admit that my wife and I have yet to "break-in" my Clubbie. But, bless her heart, she has agreed to do the do when the appropriate times arrives. What a gal, huh?!!
The main reason I preferred the Clubbie over the regluar Mini is the extra wheelbase. It provides a much better ride quality and really helps to smooth out our state-forsaken roads around here. However, I'm not sold on the barn doors. I would have preferred a simple hatch, perhaps with a separate opening window as my Wife's Matrix has. IMHO, that is the ideal setup in terms of usability, reduced cost of manufacture, and better rearward visibility.
Put a nice hatchback on the Clubbie and you have the world's most practical and fun-to-drive car. Period.
Nowadays (at 53 yrs. old), those attributes are still important but I must admit that my wife and I have yet to "break-in" my Clubbie. But, bless her heart, she has agreed to do the do when the appropriate times arrives. What a gal, huh?!!
The main reason I preferred the Clubbie over the regluar Mini is the extra wheelbase. It provides a much better ride quality and really helps to smooth out our state-forsaken roads around here. However, I'm not sold on the barn doors. I would have preferred a simple hatch, perhaps with a separate opening window as my Wife's Matrix has. IMHO, that is the ideal setup in terms of usability, reduced cost of manufacture, and better rearward visibility.
Put a nice hatchback on the Clubbie and you have the world's most practical and fun-to-drive car. Period.
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I chose the Clubman for a number of reasons. The space for the times you want to bring a 3rd or 4th passenger and the times when you need a bit more room to cart things around. But reviews I read also indicated that the Clubman smooths out the ride a bit better for long drives and so that was another reason I went with the Clubman.
The Clubman styling is not that it is bad, it is just not traditional styling of the Mini-Cooper...at least from the rear seats back. Once you get over that, the styling grows on you. It's a very nice car and I wind up lugging a bunch of stuff around considering my Home Depot stops, sailboat supplies and projects that I am always working on. So, when I need it , the extra space is great.
The Clubman styling is not that it is bad, it is just not traditional styling of the Mini-Cooper...at least from the rear seats back. Once you get over that, the styling grows on you. It's a very nice car and I wind up lugging a bunch of stuff around considering my Home Depot stops, sailboat supplies and projects that I am always working on. So, when I need it , the extra space is great.
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I don't really need the additional space, however it will be nice to have when I do need it. I too really like the lines of the Clubman - well done on MINI's part. After having 3 MINI hardtop models over the last 7 years, it will be a refreshing change from the norm . The barn doors are cool.
The Clubman may weigh more and offer slightly slower acceleration, however the handling/ride balance is better IMHO. The Clubman models have less weight on the front wheels and more on the rear - better F/R weight distribution. Plus the wheelbase is longer and the car is just a bit more settled over the bumps with equal handling.
After spending time behind the wheel of all 3 Clubman varieties, I really only noticed the added length when pulling out of the dealer lot and when looking through the rear view mirror to see the barn doors. The car was squeezed between 2 other MINIs and I had to be careful not to clip the MINI next to me!
The Clubman may weigh more and offer slightly slower acceleration, however the handling/ride balance is better IMHO. The Clubman models have less weight on the front wheels and more on the rear - better F/R weight distribution. Plus the wheelbase is longer and the car is just a bit more settled over the bumps with equal handling.
After spending time behind the wheel of all 3 Clubman varieties, I really only noticed the added length when pulling out of the dealer lot and when looking through the rear view mirror to see the barn doors. The car was squeezed between 2 other MINIs and I had to be careful not to clip the MINI next to me!
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My wife wants the Clubman to be her next car. She got a Chevy wagon as her first car that she picked out and it wasn't cool then, she just likes them.
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I wanted the extra space, the golf clubs will not fit in the regular MINI! I like the barn doors, I can tail sit and put my golf shoes on with ease (the hatch wouldn't work).
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
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TheBigNewt, my daughter has already backed into someone and gotten both a speeding and a parking ticket. She also parked her car in her grandmother's driveway in an area where we know not to park and grandmother backed into it. Oh, my daughter also hit a curb which required rim repair and tire replacement. I really feel for you with 5!
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My daughter is a good driver, now, but she gingerly pulled into a supermarket parking place with her Aunt and then hit the gas instead of the brake. Also, pulled into the garage at an angle and put a 36 inch dent/scrape down the right side of the car. She came in sheepishly and said, "Dad, I scratched the car."
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Now that I have a Clubman, it might be hard to go back to the smaller MINI but I probably would if I didn't need this extended version because the hatchback is so appealing. I will agree that the ride is much smoother on the Clubman. I am really very happy that I bought the Clubman. It's great to drive and functions are our main vehicle.
Also really like the barn doors, even though at first I was not sure about them.
As for the way the Clubman handles - this new automatic is soooooooo much better than the CVT.
If practicality were not at all in the picture and I could have two MINIs, one would be a convertible.
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We have two MINIs for our daily drivers, and they're both convertibles. Honestly, we haven't had too many instances where something we needed to carry fell in the gap between what a convertible will hold and what a Clubman would hold. And for the really big things, we have a 25-year old Dodge Truck that gets driven about five times a year just for that sort of thing.
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If I didn't have any offspring or dogs or live in the northeast where it is not always top down weather (unless one is certifiable like my beloved MINI convertible friend is ) I might be more tempted.
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I wanted the extra space, the golf clubs will not fit in the regular MINI! I like the barn doors, I can tail sit and put my golf shoes on with ease (the hatch wouldn't work).
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
#22
Will a golf bag fit in a clubman with the rear seats up? I had an R53 S and would have to have half the rear seat down to get my clubs in.... I was wondering this with the clubman. Pics would be even better
I wanted the extra space, the golf clubs will not fit in the regular MINI! I like the barn doors, I can tail sit and put my golf shoes on with ease (the hatch wouldn't work).
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
The MINI clubman meets my other needs as well, sporty, quick, awesome gas mileage (I kept by F150 for yard chores), and is really FUN to drive. I really isn't a "stationwagon" it's more of an extended MINI.
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my golf clubs are always in the back of my coupe... I need 1 back seat down for my golf bag, placed at an angle, and both seats down if I carry my push cart... definitely limited to a twosome! Not sure there's any benefit to the clubman just for golf! How many bags can you get in with the back seats in use? -- probably none.
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I wanted a Cooper since they arrived in the US. The Cooper just did not work for my needs. As soon as I saw the Clubman I went for the extra space. Most summer weekends my wife and I go to the shore accompanied by our 70lb pooch. Wife, luggage and dog-no way in a Cooper. I must say the looks of the Clubman have not grown on me. I definitely prefer a Cooper S to the Clubman S for looks. Dan