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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Seems the Boys on Top Gear Aren't Happy With the Styling

Watch the whole thing, but the fun bit is at 1:50.

 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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what do they know? they pronounce their words funny, drive on the wrong side of the road and pronounce the letter "Z" as "Zed".
However video very entertaining.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Clarkson RULES!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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doe anyone agree with them?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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what do they know? they pronounce their words funny, drive on the wrong side of the road and pronounce the letter "Z" as "Zed".
However video very entertaining.
you do know the MINI is british right? and is built in england by british people.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gromit801
Watch the whole thing, but the fun bit is at 1:50.

Ya I have to agree. I think the roof fins an the rear pillars in roof color suck i like the concept but........leaves a bad taste
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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I'm not so hot about the rear pillars, and the lack of a 4th door. I can live with the split rear doors, but ugh... I dont like how it's not symmetrical on both sides. How hard would it have been to put on another door?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Typical Top Gear sillinessness...nothing more.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Typical Top Gear sillinessness...nothing more.
i agree but also let's realize that not everyone likes everything that everbody else likes.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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How hard would it have been to put on another door?
Very hard- they would have had to re-engineer the entire fuel delivery system.
And apparently a lot of people think they're wrong...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Though it's an incredibly funny bit. Especially the tax thing James goes on about.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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i agree but also let's realize that not everyone likes everything that everbody else likes.
Yes, but they are wrong!!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Well, without knowing the specifics, I can't come up with my own opinion on this.

It's just a shame, I was really looking forward to adding a Clubman to my list of MINIs. I could live with everything else, including the rear pillars. I just can't get over the asymmetry.

Again, without knowing specifics, you would think they could have just relocated the fuel filler neck a little further back or something. The fuel filler neck was the only thing I could think of as being the 'real' source of trouble when I was checking out the Clubman in Frankfurt last year. I know their engineers are capable of figuring it out!

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Very hard- they would have had to re-engineer the entire fuel delivery system.
And apparently a lot of people think they're wrong...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Yes I realize that, I lived there for 6 months, that's where my ancestors came from, it was written tongue-in-cheek.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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I just can't get over the asymmetry.
Symmetry won't matter to me until I can see both sides of the car at the same time. So...I guess...I'm thankful that the world is not neocubist.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Believe me, I wish I could just get over it - but I can't. Had they done something with the glass on the other side (or something) to make it appear more symmetrical, I think I could have easily gotten over it.

I'm still going to take one for a test drive when I get the chance, though!

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Symmetry won't matter to me until I can see both sides of the car at the same time. So...I guess...I'm thankful that the world is not neocubist.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AKIndiMini
Had they done something with the glass on the other side (or something) to make it appear more symmetrical, I think I could have easily gotten over it.
You could cure the glass asymmetry in 5 minutes with some carefully cut vinyl.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thulewx
Very hard- they would have had to re-engineer the entire fuel delivery system.
And apparently a lot of people think they're wrong...
it's not just the engineering. if you move the fuel pipe to the tank it has to pass NHSTA (or DOT or whoever decides these things) crash testing again. apparently that doesn't get done in a lunch break
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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I had a feeling it might involve something like this. If this is the case, why didn't they engineer it like this the first time around?

Originally Posted by MiniMedic
it's not just the engineering. if you move the fuel pipe to the tank it has to pass NHSTA (or DOT or whoever decides these things) crash testing again. apparently that doesn't get done in a lunch break
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AKIndiMini
I had a feeling it might involve something like this. If this is the case, why didn't they engineer it like this the first time around?
because we would have ended up with a much better looking R56
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AKIndiMini
Believe me, I wish I could just get over it - but I can't. Had they done something with the glass on the other side (or something) to make it appear more symmetrical, I think I could have easily gotten over it.

I'm still going to take one for a test drive when I get the chance, though!
The test drive... Now there's a concept!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Sorry I just don't like the clubman...its ugly
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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to each is own... im not a big fan of the clubman, it really comes down to color choices, it doesnt matter how often i see them.. the silver pillar is just ghastly... on the other hand... certain colors do work
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Well, for a car that is at least 75% MINI coupe (which apparently the guys have no problem with), it's hard to swallow that the other 25% that make it a Clubman (a traditional and proper Mini variant) would also make the car "the ugliest." Nope...highly illogical...not buying it!!! I think they just got irked over the club door opening on "the wrong side."
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gokartride
it's hard to swallow that the other 25% that make it a Clubman (a traditional and proper Mini variant) would also make the car "the ugliest." Nope...highly illogical...not buying it!!!
Besides the fact that the extra 25% completely changes the lines and flow of the car's design as well as the proportions. Not to mention the complete change in side profile as well as a complete redesign of the roof. It may "only" be 25%, but it's a 25% that completely changed the look of the car from the exterior.

Not saying they're right, as I love my clubman.....but it's not illogical to call a car uglier than it's similar predecessor when SO MUCH was changed about the exterior styling.
 
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