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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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My wife was on the brakes and in gear, slowing for a stop sign in her Honda, kind of panicked when she realized she was on ice and found the engine was dead and the car was still in motion.

She had failed to push in the clutch when she was moving along on the ice, and when the wheels stopped, so did the engine.

Does the MINI's DSC system deal with that? Or does the pilot still have to?

Anyone out there try this yet?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Nasty experience.
No idea what MINI does ... but most cars these days will lose brake pressure boost when the engine stalls; I would expect MINI DSC to lose functionality for the same reason (no power to lock the brakes with, even if it wanted to).

 
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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I was just wondering if the DSC kept the wheels from locking and stalling the engine in that situation.

Looks like everyone else has experienced ice free roads so far. Or, more likely, I did not pose the question properly.

Oh well. Back to the color choices! :smile:
 
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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ABS should prevent the wheels from locking.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Thanks Peng1. I guess I will have to try it out next year by the time I get my MINI.

 
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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You should push the clutch in also. And that should be an automatic reaction not something to think about. eventually the car will die if you don't
 
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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>>You should push the clutch in also. And that should be an automatic reaction not something to think about. eventually the car will die if you don't

Yep. I don't know if it would be a good idea in all emergency situations (I suspect not in some cases...gee, I've got to get to a Skip Barber school someday) but it's hard-wired in my brain that the clutch goes in whenever I hit an emergency situation. That way, I'm ready to power back out when necessary. Otherwise, you'll almost always stall out at some point in the manuever...and that's no good. You always need to be in control of the power.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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>>You should push the clutch in also. And that should be an automatic reaction not something to think about. eventually the car will die if you don't


Do you normally push the clutch in at 30 mph? I don't. And if you don't realize you are on ice, it's too late.

I wait till the car slows quite a bit. Yes, I have noticed that the cars stalls when stopped when the clutch is not pushed in 30 years ago.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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>>>>You should push the clutch in also. And that should be an automatic reaction not something to think about. eventually the car will die if you don't
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>>Yep. I don't know if it would be a good idea in all emergency situations (I suspect not in some cases...gee, I've got to get to a Skip Barber school someday) but it's hard-wired in my brain that the clutch goes in whenever I hit an emergency situation. That way, I'm ready to power back out when necessary. Otherwise, you'll almost always stall out at some point in the manuever...and that's no good. You always need to be in control of the power.

I took the Skip Barber one day course a eight years ago. Was not cheap ($750?) but it was worth it. Back then they used BMW's, but now that Chrysler has it, I think they are using pick up trucks for the rear wheel drive aspect.

 
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