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Old Jan 12, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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Rear brake line fitting question

I'm in process of installing p.o.s wilwood rear calipers ( don't waste your money ) and I need to run a banjo fitting for the brake line to fit. They require alot of b.s and more money to use their hackery kit and I DONT WANT TO !
so , what threads do the rear brake lines have , I mean the rear most flex line that screws into the rear calipers. Im trying to find banko fitting adapters that i can just screw my stock flexline into and then attach the banjo fitting into the calipers..
i attached a pic of what id like toliry and find to use but idk whst thread pitch ,count ect to get for the adapters to fit my lines.

 
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 04:34 PM
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Presumably, you are switching to the Wilwood calipers for better braking, though that's far more important in the front than in the rear. If so, you do want to switch to the stainless braided teflon lines because they provide a noticeably better "feel" than the stock rubber ones that you want adapters for. You have maybe three choices if you want install the used rear Wilwood kit:

You can contact Way Motor Works to see if he has the lines you need in Goodridge brand that he stocks, or you can order the Wilwood line kit that you already referenced in your other thread https://m7tuning.com/wilwood-flexlin...per-220-10879/

Or you can assemble your own lines with parts from Earl's like serious racers have been doing for 50+ years https://www.holley.com/brands/earls/ but you will then have to re-do your own hardlines that connect to the -3 AN stuff. I would choose the Wilwood hose kit if I had already bought their brake system, but I'm surprised that you didn't get the lines included from the same person you bought the used Wilwood rear kit from.

 
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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I have no idea what kit you got or what parts but i installed my rear kit with lines in about 45 min a side. Got mine from TRE
 
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini_Crazy
Presumably, you are switching to the Wilwood calipers for better braking, though that's far more important in the front than in the rear. If so, you do want to switch to the stainless braided teflon lines because they provide a noticeably better "feel" than the stock rubber ones that you want adapters for. You have maybe three choices if you want install the used rear Wilwood kit:

You can contact Way Motor Works to see if he has the lines you need in Goodridge brand that he stocks, or you can order the Wilwood line kit that you already referenced in your other thread https://m7tuning.com/wilwood-flexlin...per-220-10879/

Or you can assemble your own lines with parts from Earl's like serious racers have been doing for 50+ years https://www.holley.com/brands/earls/ but you will then have to re-do your own hardlines that connect to the -3 AN stuff. I would choose the Wilwood hose kit if I had already bought their brake system, but I'm surprised that you didn't get the lines included from the same person you bought the used Wilwood rear kit from.

seems like he got a hodge podge going on. I bought the front and rear kits new and they even included steel wire to aircraft safety the bolts on hat assemblies
 
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Old Jan 16, 2024 | 06:05 AM
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seems like he got a hodge podge going on. I bought the front and rear kits new and they even included steel wire to aircraft safety the bolts on hat assemblies
Im trying to have them be as direct install as possible yes and not everything was included to install them so I'm chasing down the rest..
I ended up just ordering the wilwood brakeline kit hoping it will be the easiest ,most direct install...
I'm just hoping I don't need to put the adapters into my hardlines , lol I hate trying to mess with those from past nightmares.
Atleast my lines arnt rusty so that a plus i guess..
I will have to find out how I install those adapters if that line doesn't directly attach.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Once you have the thread size and pitch (I threw my old rubber ones out when I changed them), try Pegasus Racing for the correct banjo fittings.I've used them multiple times for such things and have never had an issue with their parts or descriptions.
If you use the banjo fittings, be sure that you get NEW copper crush washers, they should be one time use OR re-temper them with a torch before re-use to put them back to a malleable state.
HTH,
 
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Old Jan 18, 2024 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SupeR53
Once you have the thread size and pitch (I threw my old rubber ones out when I changed them), try Pegasus Racing for the correct banjo fittings.I've used them multiple times for such things and have never had an issue with their parts or descriptions.
If you use the banjo fittings, be sure that you get NEW copper crush washers, they should be one time use OR re-temper them with a torch before re-use to put them back to a malleable state.
HTH,
Adam Pegasus is local too. Think in fort Atkinson
 
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