Hello everybody…

I thought you guys would be interested in this. Was reading Road and Track today, and found their specs on the Cooper and Cooper S… then I compared them with a ton of other cars on the market. The S has the fastest slalom speed on the market! Not bad for a $20k car, no?

Specs taken from Road & Track Magazine, January 2003, Vol. 54, #5

Name - Engine type - horsepower - Base List Price ($) - 0-60 mph (sec) - Skidpad - 700 ft. slalom (mph) - top speed (mph)

Mini Cooper - I-4 - 115 hp - $18,000 - 8.5 sec - 0.79g - 67.6 mph - 124 mph
Mini Cooper S - I-4s - 163 hp - $19,300 - 7.7 sec (6.9 sec - MINI) - 0.87g - 69.5 mph - n/a (136 mph - MINI)

Acura NSX - V-6 - 290 mph - $89,000 - 5.0 sec - 0.91g - 65.8 mph - 175 mph
Acura RSX Type-S - I-4 - 200 hp - $23,170 - 6.7 sec - 0.82g - 66.8 mph - 145 mph
Ameritech McLaren F1 - V-12 - 627 hp - $890,000 - 3.4 sec - 0.86g - 64.5 mph - 231 mph
Aston Martin Vanquish - V-12 - 460 hp - $225,000 - 4.7 sec - 0.88g - 65.7 mph - 190 mph
Audi S8 - V-8 - 360 hp - $72,500 - 6.1 sec - 0.87g - 62.3 mph - 155 mph
Audi TT Roadster - 1-4t - 225 hp - $38,550 - 6.6 sec - 0.86g - 63.4 mph - 143 mph
Bentley Arnage Red Label - V-8t - 400 hp - $207,400 - 6.3 sec - 0.74g - 59.2 mph - 155 mph
BMW M3 - I-6 - 343 (DIN bhp) - $45,000 - 4.7 sec - 0.91g - n/a - 155 mph
BMW M5 - V-8 - 400 hp - $69,400 - 5.0 sec - .90g - 64.7 mph - 155 mph
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - V-8 - 405 hp - $49,505 - 4.7 sec - 0.97g - 67.5 mph - 171 mph
Dodge Viper GTS - V-10 - 450 hp - $66,000 - 4.3 sec - 0.98g - 63.6 mph - 185 mph
Ferrari 360 Modena - V-8 - 395 hp - $152,250 - 4.3 sec - n/a - 67.4 mph - 189 mph
Ferrari 550 Maranello - V-12 - 485 hp - $200,000 - 4.7 sec - n/a - 62.8 mph - 193 mph
Ford SVT Focus - I-4 - 170 hp - $17,995 - 7.4 sec - 0.85g -65.2 mph - 134 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R - V-8 - 390 hp - $54,000 - 4.8 sec - 0.99g - 63.8 mph - 170 mph
Honda Civic Si - I-4 - 160 hp - $19,000 - 7.6 sec - 0.81 - 64.6 mph - 130 mph
Honda S2000 - I-4 - 240 hp - $32,000 - 5.5 sec - 0.90g - 65.9 mph - 150 mph
Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe - V-6 - 280 hp - $30,000 - 6.1 sec - 0.92g - 67.7 mph - 151 mph
Jaguar XKR - V-8s - 370 hp - $81,800 - 5.3 sec - 0.86 sec - 62.5 mph - 156 mph
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 - V-12 - 550 hp - $275,400 - 0.99g - 65.7 sec - 205 mph
Lotus Esprit V8 - V-8 - 350 hp - $79,325 - 4.4 sec - 0.90g - 60.3 mph - 178 mph
Maserati Coupe Cambiocorsa - V-8 - 390 hp - $87,165 - 5.0 sec - 0.87g - 64.7 mph - 177 mph
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS - I-4 - 138 hp - $23,995 - 8.0 sec - 0.92g - 62.7 mph - 123 mph
Mercedes-Benz SLK32 AMG - V-6s - 349 hp - $54,900 - 5.0 sec - 0.85g - 65.0 mph - 155 mph
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT - V-6 - 200 hp - $20,187 - 7.0 sec - 0.82g - 61.3 mph - 140 mph
Nissan 350Z - V-6 - 287 hp - $34,079 - 5.6 sec - 0.89g - 65.6 mph - 155 mph
Panoz Esperante - V-8 - 320 hp - $80,000 - 5.1 sec - 0.92g - 62.0 mph - 155 mph
Porsche Boxster S - F-6 - 250 hp - $49,930 - 5.6 sec - 0.93g - 65.6 mph - 161 mph
Porsche 911 Turbo - F-6t - 415 hp - $111,000 - 4.0 sec - 0.96g - 67.8 mph - 190 mph
Porsche 911 GT2 - F-6t - 456 hp - $179,900 - 3.6 sec - 1.02g - 68.7 mph - 195 mph
Subaru Impreza WRX - F-4t - 227 hp - $23,995 - 5.7 sec - 0.84g - 62.8 mph - 130 mph
Toyota Celica GT-S - I-4 - 180 hp - $23,300 - 6.8 sec - 0.86g - 63.6 mph - 134 mph
Toyota MR2 Spyder - I-4 - 138 hp - $23,098 - 7.3 sec - 0.91g - 62.6 mph - 129 mph
Volkswagen Golf GTI GLX - V-6 - 174 hp - $22,150 - 6.8 sec - 0.80g - 58.8 mph - 140 mph


-Jeremy M. Adams
President, MiniOKI of Northeast Ohio


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Wow! Thanks for taking the time to type all of that out! Wanted to pick up the magazine today, but now I can wait until tomorrow.

How great is it that the MINI S is the fastest car for this test!

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2003 MCS, BRG/W on the truck to my dealer!

"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement."

 

There's no doubt that the handling of the MINI is superb, especially given it's low price. However, in the interest of accuracy, I will have to point out there are several new cars on the market that play at the MINIs slalom level and at a competitive price.

I see that neither the new Mazdaspeed Protege nor the new Neon SRT-4 are mentioned in the Road & Track performance summaries. Given the results published by Sport Compact Car Magazine, I would expect that Road & Track will soon report that these two cars are at least as quick through the slalom as the MINI.

 

Yeah, I was reallty wishing they had teh specs for the SRT-4 in this month's mag so I could post them as well... sounds like an incredible car... but I wouldn't buy one for two reasons...

1. Ugly as sin
2. Its an American car - hate to say it, but American build quality is pretty shoddy.

I'd imagine its performance numbers will closely rival or beat the S's...

However, a Mini is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000 times cooler than a Neon. :smile:

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I know that comparing either of the 2 models of MINI's to a McLaren isn't really fair, due to being in separate classes of vehicles. But it's way too cool to be able to beat a million dollar car in any aspect of racing, with a MINI. There's got to be a decal idea for my MCS in there somewhere. Maybe 'McLaren killer' ???? But it's true.
Cheers,

 

>>2. Its an American car - hate to say it, but American build quality is pretty shoddy.

I really hate blanket statements like this, you do realize you bought a british car don't you? Known by people the world over for the worst quality and reliability there is.

Now I love my MC and I will not be even considering an srt-4, but don't say things like that, it only makes you look ignorant.

(waiting for someone to start badmouthing american beer, grrrrrrrrrr!)

 

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>>>>2. Its an American car - hate to say it, but American build quality is pretty shoddy.
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>>I really hate blanket statements like this, you do realize you bought a british car don't you? Known by people the world over for the worst quality and reliability there is.


i always thought it was the french that had the worst reputation... but we all have fond memories of cars from the soviet bloc as well....

 

SarcuxKSU, I guess you didn't read your info very good, "BMW M5 - V-8 - 400 hp - $69,400 - 5.0 sec - .90g - 94.7 mph - 155 mph. But the MINI is fast, really fast. I must say that Iove M5's and M3's though.

 

Uhm, I mis-typed that, lol. I'll go fix it. Its 64.7 mph. And I know British cars are junk too... I'm just a bigot against American cars, ehe.

 

>>2. Its an American car - hate to say it, but American build quality is pretty shoddy.

American build quality is good. BMW just came out with a belt driven motorcycle
for 2003....their first. Recalled already. Mini...recall and several pending....
My Harley runs just fine.
Z8
540101 AUG 01 Campaign - Hardtop Mount Replacement
220101 AUG 01 Campaign - L/H Engine Mount Support Replacement
410101 AUG 01 Campaign - Rocker Panel Drain Hole
510201 AUG 01 Campaign - Trunk Lid Gas Strut Replacement
M5
110400 OCT 02 Engine - Oil Recommendations/Checking Procedure
510501 NOV 01 Air Bag Cover (Passenger) - Not Even With Dash
320301 OCT 01 Steering - Squealing/Groaning/Grinding Noise
240198 SEP 01 A/T - Fluid Level Checking Procedure
110401 JUL 01 Engine - Rattle Noise Coming from Front (VANOS area)
110101 JUN 01 Engine - MIL ON/Codes Set/Tapping/Rattling Noise
841197 JUN 01 Navigation System - Numerous Failures/Malfunctions
750 il 110898 OCT 01 Engine - Oil Recommendations/Change Intervals
320301 OCT 01 Steering - Squealing/Groaning/Grinding Noise
240198 SEP 01 A/T - Fluid Level Checking Procedure
320201 JUL 01 Steering Gear - Replacement Due to Accident Damage
841197 JUN 01 Navigation System - Numerous Failures/Malfunctions
841400 MAY 01 Cell Phone, CPT 7000 - Discharged Vehicle Battery
630201 MAR 01 Light Bulb - Replacement Guidelines
650900 MAR 01 Radio - Clicking Noise ON AM Band
720101 MAR 01 Seat Belts - Click/Rattle From Upper Mount
610101 MAR 01 Windows - Drop Partially When Unlocking Car
840201 FEB 01 Navigation System - Monitor Opens By Itself
840201 FEB 01 Audio System - Delayed Sound/No Audio Display
840101 FEB 01 Cellular Phone - No Volume Adjustment
090101 FEB 01 Vehicle and Key - Memory Programming
630101 FEB 01 Xenon Lamp Bulb - Color Change After Operation
640101 JAN 01 A/C System - Musty Odors
611600 JAN 01 Battery - Maintenance
841300 JAN 01 Phone/Voice Input System - Standard Equipment
160400 DEC 00 Check Engine Lamp ON/DTC's Stored
841200 DEC 00 Digital Cellular Phone - Training/Troubleshooting Manual
111190 DEC 00 Engine - Oil Capacities With Filter Change
410200 DEC 00 Interior - Wind Buffeting
320200 DEC 00 Power Steering - Intermittently In Default Mode
650300 DEC 00 Radio - Whine On AM Band
540700 DEC 00 Sunroof - Intermittently Inoperative
110901 DEC 00 Thermal Oil Level Sensor - Operation and Diagnosis
180299 NOV 00 Exhaust System - Back Pressure Checking Tool
120199 NOV 00 Spark Plugs - Application Chart
240900 OCT 00 A/T - Repair/Replacement Guidelines
720897 OCT 00 Airbags - Deactivation
840400 OCT 00 Cellular Phone - Standard Equipment
241000 OCT 00 Engine Control Module - MS 43 Removal Precautions
841100 SEP 00 Navigation System - Wide Screen Monitor
650499 AUG 00 Audio System - Test CD/Tape
610800 AUG 00 Electrical - Closed Circuit Current Measurement
620400 AUG 00 IC Conversion - Km/h to Mph or Mph to Km/h
230200 AUG 00 M/T - Oil Fill/Drain Plugs Updated
650599 AUG 00 Radio - Security Codes in The DCS
720200 JUL 00 Airbag Control Module - Warning Light ON/Codes Set
510400 JUL 00 Door Sound/Vapor Barrier - Water Leaks
610500 JUL 00 Electrical Connnectors - Stabilant 22A Contact Enhancer
120400 JUL 00 MIL ON, Multiple DTC's Stored
720399 JUL 00 Rear Airbag - Activation/Deactivation
360200 JUL 00 Tires and Wheels - Applications
610700 JUL 00 Windshield Wiper Blades - Noisy/Not Cleaning Well
840500 MAY 00 Cellular Phone - CPT 7000 Setting Up Features
160100 MAY 00 Fuel System - MIL ON, Tank Leakage Fault Codes
120100 JAN 00 DME - Diagnostic Error Message Displayed
110598 SEP 98 Crankcase Ventilation System - Diagnostic Information
620279 NOV 79 Turn Signal Indicator - Inoperative/Circuit Change
These are all 2001, 2002 and 2003 recalls, TSBs on established models.
I could not find any on the Neon after 1996.

 

>>I really hate blanket statements like this...

>>(waiting for someone to start badmouthing american beer, grrrrrrrrrr!)


Hmmmmmm..... Are you making a blanket statement that ALL American beer is good?


Gosh fellas, considering that we're all enthralled with all things MINI, you sure are making some HUGE posts!

 

>>(waiting for someone to start badmouthing american beer, grrrrrrrrrr!)

You mean that fizzy stuff? Guinness is good for you!!

 

Heh, sirron likes head. ::ducks::

 

Pffft.....you guys are hilarious.
American beer??? You mean that stuff with the word 'Light' after the name brand? Seems like evertime I go to the States, everywhere I go advertises Light beer as the majority of beer offered. As well as commercials, sports events, etc. Nothing against ya'll, but what's up with that?
Cheers,

 

The Mazdaspeed car will be quick through the slalom, but not the Neon. The SRT will be a good fast straight line car, not a superb handler.

 

I know I have the specs for the Protege somewhere... I'm just too lazy to look them up, ehe.

 

>>The Mazdaspeed car will be quick through the slalom, but not the Neon. The SRT will be a good fast straight line car, not a superb handler.

Sport Compact Car hustled the SRT-4 through the slalom faster than the MINI. The Neon may be ugly and cheap-looking, but the Chrysler engineers did their chassis homework. It is one bad **** off-the-line AND in the twisties.

 

The Neon is a great car.



But then you have to realize...




its a NEON. I do miss those old "Hi" commercials, those were cute as hell.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, I should probably admit to having a special place in my heart for the Neon.

My mother got a Neon the first year they were available, while I was a senior in high school. At the time they were a very unique design, and garnered a lot of the same attention that MINIs get now.

Anyway, I'll never forget borrowing that car for school, and literally getting mobbed by a pack of girls. They piled into the car without even asking. I kid you not, that car was a babe magnet of the first order, and I always borrowed it for dates. Lots of GOOD memories.

I can't even imagine what it will be like for high school guys who are lucky enough to have a MINI!

 

**Hmmmmmm..... Are you making a blanket statement that ALL American beer is good? **

ok people, that light lager stuff everyone drinks isnt AMERICAN beer, its the worlds beer and happens to be made in America. Also, america is not the only one that produces such 'top quality' stuff, we got australia and japan in it just as much as us.

anyways, what I consider to be american BEER is stuff like anchor, sierra nevada, sam adams, etc. tehres lots of good companies. and no, all american beer is not good!

hmmm, well that was off topic.

oh, i also remember the ladies going wild for the neon, but girls also loved the geo metro convertible from what I remember... I think by now they all grew up and aren't so easily impressed :smile:

 

>>**Hmmmmmm..... Are you making a blanket statement that ALL American beer is good? **
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>>ok people, that light lager stuff everyone drinks isnt AMERICAN beer, its the worlds beer and happens to be made in America. Also, america is not the only one that produces such 'top quality' stuff, we got australia and japan in it just as much as us.
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>>anyways, what I consider to be american BEER is stuff like anchor, sierra nevada, sam adams, etc. tehres lots of good companies. and no, all american beer is not good!


I sortof hoped that was what you meant.... I just wanted you say it (and me not put any words in your mouth)!

I agree with you! There really are some VERY good American beers. Although I have additional thoughts, I'll leave it at that.

....back to MINI v. the World!.....

 

I wish I had girls mobbing at me and my Mini... I seem to have lost my touch...

 

>>I wish I had girls mobbing at me and my Mini... I seem to have lost my touch...

You're in college, right? That's a whole different league my friend.

 

There's so much I could add to that right now,..........But being that it's a family site, I'll leave it.
But yes, aim your car at the Highschool girls, and you'll have swarms of them. It's actually kinda cool. You don't have to do anything. Just make the car work for you. It's soo easy. And if I wasn't taken already, well, let's just say I'd have backup girl to fall back on in no time, if I were swallow enough to use my car as the main attraction to getting girls. But it does make an easy conversation starter to break the ice and get to know eachother. Even the more mature chicks are into the looks and style. Not sure where you're shopping.
It's really working for me. Actually my girl gets REALLY annoyed when girls of all ages come up to me when we're out and check out my car with their flirtatious ways. Think she's starting to wonder if I got this car on purpose for that reason. I'm already on my way to the doghouse, and I haven't even done anything yet. This must be what marriage is like, yes, no?? Doesn't matter where I go. To the mall, restaurants, cruising around, etc. They there are. Not to toot my own horn. Just stating the facts. As I'm sure others can agree to in their situation.
Cheers,

 

Same thing happens to me... all type of looks and compliments from girls, problem is it most often happens when sitting at the traffic light next to the middle school on my way to work.