R50/53 Okay, exactly how much of an interference design is the R53 motor?? Verify timing?
Okay, exactly how much of an interference design is the R53 motor?? Verify timing?
So, I've been troubleshooting my car's rough idle / inconsistent vacuum issues ever since finishing my head gasket job last fall. After taking it to a shop, turns out it has low compression across the board:
#1- 130
#2- 135
#3- 125
#4- 145
The way I see it, there are two possibilities- The timing is off by a tooth or so and the exhaust valves are opening too early, or-
I second-guessed the timing on re-assembly & ran it off by a tooth for about a minute. It started to sound like a diesel so I shut it off. Here's the full story-
Please keep in mind that I did all this last September, so I don't really remember the specific reasoning as to why I did this, but here goes-
I used white out to put reference marks on the chain & cam sprocket. With the timing chain tensioner out, I rotated the crank until the cam sprocket turned 360 deg. I think this was to bring it's arrow back to facing up without rotating the engine backward. Unfortunately, this caused me to lose my reference mark on my timing chain. However, I believe I did the rest of the head gasket job without moving a tooth.
So then, I got the engine re-assembled and started it up. It struggled to fire & idled pretty terribly, so I second-guess the timing. Looking at the position of the cam gear & comparing it to a "before" reference photo (also referencing a mark I'd made on the crank pulley), It appeared to have skipped a tooth. So then, I moved the cam gear counter-clockwise by one tooth. I believe this would retard the timing? Fired it up, it ran fine for a few seconds, then slowly started to get more & more valve train noise, eventually wounding like a diesel & I shut it off after a minute or so.
Wanting to make sure I had the timing correct, I pulled the timing cover only to discover that it was actually correct the first time, so I placed the chain's colored links on the crank & cam sprocket's corresponding arrows & have been running it that way ever since.
If you've made it this far, I have two questions:
Is it possible to have bent valves from running the engine one tooth off?
Is it possible for the timing to "look correct" based on the links / marks but still be off??
From what I have heard, this is an interference engine but will only hit if it's "way off". I've also heard that if you're lining up the links & sprocket marks, your only two outcomes would be to have correct timing or to have it 180 deg. off, resulting in a running engine but with crank & cam sensor fault codes.
I currently have no codes.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
#1- 130
#2- 135
#3- 125
#4- 145
The way I see it, there are two possibilities- The timing is off by a tooth or so and the exhaust valves are opening too early, or-
I second-guessed the timing on re-assembly & ran it off by a tooth for about a minute. It started to sound like a diesel so I shut it off. Here's the full story-
Please keep in mind that I did all this last September, so I don't really remember the specific reasoning as to why I did this, but here goes-
I used white out to put reference marks on the chain & cam sprocket. With the timing chain tensioner out, I rotated the crank until the cam sprocket turned 360 deg. I think this was to bring it's arrow back to facing up without rotating the engine backward. Unfortunately, this caused me to lose my reference mark on my timing chain. However, I believe I did the rest of the head gasket job without moving a tooth.
So then, I got the engine re-assembled and started it up. It struggled to fire & idled pretty terribly, so I second-guess the timing. Looking at the position of the cam gear & comparing it to a "before" reference photo (also referencing a mark I'd made on the crank pulley), It appeared to have skipped a tooth. So then, I moved the cam gear counter-clockwise by one tooth. I believe this would retard the timing? Fired it up, it ran fine for a few seconds, then slowly started to get more & more valve train noise, eventually wounding like a diesel & I shut it off after a minute or so.
Wanting to make sure I had the timing correct, I pulled the timing cover only to discover that it was actually correct the first time, so I placed the chain's colored links on the crank & cam sprocket's corresponding arrows & have been running it that way ever since.
If you've made it this far, I have two questions:
Is it possible to have bent valves from running the engine one tooth off?
Is it possible for the timing to "look correct" based on the links / marks but still be off??
From what I have heard, this is an interference engine but will only hit if it's "way off". I've also heard that if you're lining up the links & sprocket marks, your only two outcomes would be to have correct timing or to have it 180 deg. off, resulting in a running engine but with crank & cam sensor fault codes.
I currently have no codes.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
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