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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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TORX bits worth investing in...?

I noticed a lot of pieces in the MINI require TORX bits to remove (why cant everything be philips and flat lol) And not everyone has torx bits!

Generally speaking, what should I look for when shopping for a set of torx bits?
 

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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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I've got a '06 R50 and for that I know that you need one to remove the downtubes/headunit. Not sure what size. And you also need a T-50 to remove the rotors.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Astral Black
I've got a '06 R50 and for that I know that you need one to remove the downtubes/headunit. Not sure what size. And you also need a T-50 to remove the rotors.
Sweet! added to the list.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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just get a set of torx bits, you'll need it later down the line
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Motoring
just get a set of torx bits, you'll need it later down the line
Arent there a huge amount of different bits though?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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Not that much, maybe 17 or so.
I just got a 12pcs set from 10T to 55T and it has bit adapters for 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2. And for small stuff I got a T8-T40 swiss army type set at Auto Zone for $8.99.

I stand corrected maybe there is over 20 sizes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ewdrivers.html
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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You need Torx to change the engine air filter, and also to remove the seat rails from the floor. I think that the screws that affix the trunk latch to the floor (not the part in the hatch) are Torx also. Sorry, don't recall any of the sizes though.
Like the poster above, I bought a set of the larger sizes to go on my ratchet, and then a folding set of the smaller sizes. This has covered all of my needs so far.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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At most I can see needing 4-6 screwdriver sizes from 10-25 and then add the same amount for a socket drive set in the larger sizes.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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For those who are up for the challenge - you need a T-30 to remove the power steering pump from the anti-vibration bracket... if that is the only tool you do not have, the job becomes much more difficult.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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I installed the Cabrio breaces on my car... torx, naturally

I second the T50 usage on the rotors. It's just about time I get a good set
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Get the torx set. I'd prefer all torx. I'd be happy if I never had to deal with another flat head or phillips.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MirthScout
Get the torx set. I'd prefer all torx. I'd be happy if I never had to deal with another flat head or phillips.
whoa whoa.. you just took it too far


i thought Torx bits were expensive bits that you had to buy separately I didnt know theres a whole set of all the bits.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Ten bucks at Harbor Freight will meet 95% of your needs . . . or more

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91238

or $30 at lowes http://www.lowes.com/pd_90731-1074-2...=torx$y=9$x=33
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt_bj
Ten bucks at Harbor Freight will meet 95% of your needs . . . or more

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91238

or $30 at lowes http://www.lowes.com/pd_90731-1074-2...=torx$y=9$x=33
Oh ok that works, im gonna go buy a set tommorow.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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I have a Craftsman 7 pc., 1/4 and 3/8 in. drive Torx® bit socket set. Includes three 1/4 in. sizes ( T15, T20, T25), four 3/8 in. sizes (T30, T40, T45 and T50). Then a simple Torx bit set ranging from T1 to T10. So I'm only missing T27, 55, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100. Never ran into those sizes on the car.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MirthScout
Get the torx set. I'd prefer all torx. I'd be happy if I never had to deal with another flat head or phillips.
The only other vehicle I've ever seen with so many torx fasteners was a Jeep. It took me a while, but I grew to like these fasteners as they don't seem to strip nearly as easily as a phillips or slotted fastener (assuming you use the correct torx driver). I've been amazed at the rusty torx fasteners that I've been able to remove w/o having the head strip.

With that said - I started off with a cheap screwdriver torx set. You can accomplish a lot of stuff (dash and trim panels) with one of these. Later, I upgraded to a socket set for things like seat belt anchors, seat mounts, power steering pump, body panels, etc.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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I haven't found anything on the R53 that the Craftsman 7 pc set can't handle. I haven't done enough on the R56 to know if you need any additional sizes.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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I love Harbor Freight! I have the screw-driver set and the socket set... they have a lifetime warrenty and the price is reasonable.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CARdiac
I love Harbor Freight! I have the screw-driver set and the socket set... they have a lifetime warrenty and the price is reasonable.
Yeah, they're fun stores -- especially for gadget freaks!

There are 20% off coupons in several car mags every month. I'm waiting, with coupon in hand, for one of the higher quality aluminum racing jacks to go on sale again...
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Craftman set here and with lifetime warranty can't go wrong. Have used warrenty trying to remove torx bolt that holds rotor on . Shattered but it could have been the 1/2 inch impact gun attached to at the time.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Fan
Yeah, they're fun stores -- especially for gadget freaks!

There are 20% off coupons in several car mags every month. I'm waiting, with coupon in hand, for one of the higher quality aluminum racing jacks to go on sale again...
I have the jack, it is decent... my only complaint is the roller got stuck. I took it off and noticed something had gotten in and gouged the metal causing a ridge. I ground it down and greased the crap out of it... works well ever since.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AKIndiMini
The only other vehicle I've ever seen with so many torx fasteners was a Jeep. It took me a while, but I grew to like these fasteners as they don't seem to strip nearly as easily as a phillips or slotted fastener (assuming you use the correct torx driver). I've been amazed at the rusty torx fasteners that I've been able to remove w/o having the head strip.
Oh, yes, my jeep was where I first saw them really used. Then I saw them showing up in computers. Of course, the Mini has lots of them. You can even buy torx deck screws; now that was nice. I rebuilt my entire deck and didn't strip out a single screw head. With torx you only need to press against the screw with about 1/3 the force you would with a phillips. And, of course, no slipping out and scratching what you are working on like with slotted screws. I'm a torx fan.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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Buy a T-50 at Sears (for the brakes), make sure it says Craftsman on it (lifetime warranty) so you can exchange it when you twist or snap it - all the rest of mine are for 1/4 socket (bit driver) or "swiss army" set (always in the glovebox)...
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Un0RiGiNaL
"(why cant everything be philips and flat lol)"

"Generally speaking, what should I look for when shopping for a set of torx bits? "

Because Phillips and Standard head bolts and screws tend to strip or cam out when you apply a good amount of torque on them. Cam out means that the driver forces itself out of the head once a particular torque is reached. Phillips drivers actually do this by design. Torx drivers are designed to apply consistent torque to a bolt without driving itself out of the bolt.

Torx bolts are also nice because they can dimensionally fit in places where a hex head is too large. The cabrio braces are a good example.

As far as what to look for.. You can usually find a set of male and female assortments from T10 to T50 at any decent hardware store or online.

Anything made by SK, Craftsman, Snap-On, MAC Tools. All of these brands should have a lifetime guarantee.

here's a shot of my Torx drawer at work.
 
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here is a coupon:
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html.../images/18.jpg
 
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