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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Attack to Randy was not called for.

Randy has done a lot for all of usin the comunity, and personally stand for the quallity of his work and I think everybody who had a chance to talk or deal with him in any aspect agrees with me.

Keep the good work randy and do not pay attention to these kind of ignorant people.

Carlos From Florida
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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>>All depends on why they call you BIG TIM?

I am kinda big, 6'4 280lbs lifetime natural powerlifter. 430lb bench 585 squat... :smile:

I am not much of an aggressive guy, but for the ability to keep randy Randy I'd go to blows...

Gotta lovvve internet brawling
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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I am kinda big, 6'4 280lbs lifetime natural powerlifter. 430lb bench 585 squat... :smile:
That's an excellent squat but a pretty poor bench for a 280 pounder!

For u guys with modded mcs and fear of big repair bills if your car brakes down. Geico offers mechanical coverage that includes everything from bumper to bumper for $30.00 a year.
No Geico in NJ...

And as for the guy dissing Randy, he doesn't have a clue. Randy's done almost 200 pulleys. How many has the dealership guy done? One, maybe two on the JCW kits they've installed? We've heard stories here how it took 12 hours for several people to install the JCW kit. Exchanging the supercharger, head and swapping the exhausts takes a couple of guys a work day and a half to do (12hrs)? Do you really think they knew what they were doing? I'll take someone like Randy or Eric @ Helix anyday. Guys who not only install products, but also design, develop and test them as well.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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>>>>>>what diffrence would it make if Randy was there to watch the engine tear-down.
>>>>>>Is randy BMW factory trained, well ah no. So if anyone thinks for one second that randys say carrys any weight behind it, needs to have there head checked. And for the people who say that randy is an "expert", you are all stupid. The only thing randy knows how to do is pullys, and he does not do them well!
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>>>>Shut Up! Troll.
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>>>>Randy should not have even replied to your idiotic post.
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>>Look at his account. His interests are fishing and "toutching myself". That is pretty much the definition of a troll.
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>>I think Mark Ferguson needs to look at this person.
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I totally agree! To make your first post to this forum just to attack Randy is only a way to have new members read negative statements about Randy and MCO.
I don't like it!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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This is an interesting thread and I want to add my nickel's worth. I feel that MINI promotes and encourages owners to modify, accessorize and enhance their MINI. The factory advertising even advises you that racing a MINI is fun. I plan to add a 15% reduction pulley and would expect warranty coverage.

When I worked at a VW store I saw just a few oil consumption issues on A4 ie. "New Jetta" models. The oil consumption was traced to faulty piston rings. In another case, I had an older engine rebuilt. After the complete teardown and overhaul at the dealership, my wife drove the vehicle and had the engine light illuminate. Yes, oil consumption was the problem. This was not a seating issue or a sign of needing more break in. In this case the piston rings on each new piston had been too closely aligned with each other. The oil was passing past each ring set at the small gap where the ring comes around to meet itself.

Perhaps there is a similar situation on some MINIs. Mine has been good so far with 5k on the ODO.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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Note to all readers of this thread-

Before you go any further you must look at this
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ighlight=Ralph
Randy determined what was going on and more. :smile:

Oil doesn't just vanish.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 02:27 AM
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Right from the get go....three quarts of oil low is a criminal way to operate an engine.
It is really unbelievable the way people will jump on a wagon, regardless of their level of knowledge and start ascribing evil intentions to one and all. Usually along with this attitude comes the denying of ALL personal responsibility for whatever the issue is.
Someone REALLY hates the guy with the blown engine though....sheeeeesh....to drain someone's engine! I'm guessing a neighbor......
BTW, Classic MINI also has a "hydrolocked" engine in stock..... what is the matter with these guys.....?????
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Do I understand this correctly? The way I read it, the engine was three quarts low of oil at the time of the engine failure. Am I wrong and in actuality the engine used three quarts that had been replaced during the course of the 10,000 mile period?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LilRedMini
Do I understand this correctly? The way I read it, the engine was three quarts low of oil at the time of the engine failure. Am I wrong and in actuality the engine used three quarts that had been replaced during the course of the 10,000 mile period?
Read Minihune's post. Someone drained all of the oil out of his car, not just three quarts. They added three quarts and it was not showing up on the dipstick.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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So... what this thread really tells me is that I should check my oil tonight?!?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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Was there any sign of an oil leak. 3 Qts is alot of oil to loose. I would have gone back to mini and had them add the oil. You got a battle on your hands. They have to prove that it was the puly. The oil issue puts some serious dought into their argument. Remember they have to prove it, you have to cast dought as to their assertion. A engine should never blow with that little miles.


You will probebly need to hire a lawyer. Good luck.


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Chrisnl, Yea your right I did not read the date. I assumed that...well you know assume...
 

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketrocketowner
Right from the get go....three quarts of oil low is a criminal way to operate an engine.
It is really unbelievable the way people will jump on a wagon, regardless of their level of knowledge and start ascribing evil intentions to one and all. Usually along with this attitude comes the denying of ALL personal responsibility for whatever the issue is.
PRO, you are apparently aware that the driver's oil was drained from their car without their knowledge, so where are you trying to go here? Do you check your oil level every morning before you drive off? If not, lose the freakin attitude.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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ninjamni, read the thread linked to several posts above yours. Also note that this problem is a year old, and has since been resolved.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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Thanks for clarifying the oil situation without my reading this entire long thread.

Since there was inadequate oil in the engine, I really don't understand how MINI should be held responsible. It sounds like an insurance claim was in order. It also seems to exonerate the modifications as having any responsibility for the failure.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LilRedMini
Since there was inadequate oil in the engine, I really don't understand how MINI should be held responsible. It sounds like an insurance claim was in order.
That's exactly how this was handled. Read the other thread.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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right is as right does.....

Your legal rights do not mean much in this circumstance. The cost of fighting them with lawyers will exceed the cost of the engine, and the best you can win is that they have to fix the engine, not your lawyer's bills. Plus you have to do it in Federal Court, which makes it more expensive and perhaps nowhere near your home. I am sure that BMW has a bunch of lawyers on retainer that do nothing but fight these cases.

Quite frankly I think it is insane to order a car with a four year warranty and start messing with the engine. The Mini company offers a warrantied hop-up package - something very few if any car companies do. But the cost of the JCW kit probably entails a cost of warranty service coverage. In effect you pay the premium for the extra coverage for the extra risk when you buy the kit. When you cheaped out and did the,mods yourself, you did not pay to cover the extra risk. Why should BMW do it for free?

Its one thing for a teenager to hop up a 10 year old Civic. To start messing with a brand new car is a risky expensive business. If you can't afford to do it, meaning assume the risk, then do not do it. I wonder what your car loan company feels about you voiding the warranty and blowing up the car? I wonder what you will pay for your next car loan?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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My sons friend's mom blew the engine in her Ford Expedition. It stalled out and would not start. After a tow to the Ford dealer (still under warranty), the mechanic called and asked the last time she had checked the oil. It was bone dry! They refused to replace under warranty, and had to cough up a nearly $5,000 repair bill for a new engine. And yes, her husband is a successful attorney who did not have a leg to stand on proving that oil changes were done per the factory maintenance schedule listed in owners manual.

I really love my fellow NAM members, but do not understand why owners are making engine modifications (ECU's, pulleys, etc.) to that tiny 1.6L Brazilian motor. You will void the factory warranty from BMW, and stress that little sucka' out! And let's not forget engine longevity. The Tritec is a simple, durable, and nearly bulletproof engine when left stock. Why not keep it that way?
 

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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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speltzer: I noticed from your sig. that you have a CAI and Magnaflow. Thats in conflict with your suggestion of Keeping It Stock. OK they are not pulleys or ECU but, they are mods.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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the last time she had checked the oil. It was bone dry!
Ah, yes. My ex-wife, before she was the ex, some years back she drove an older BMW. One day she came to me and said, "Honey, what is that red light mean on the dash?" Well, it turned out to be the oil light. I asked, "How long has it been on?" She said, "Oh, 3 or 4 days. I just thought I'd ask you about it but kept forgetting to."

Moral of the story: Women should not drive cars.

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ps. No harm to the engine in the BMW. Lucky for her, the ****.

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy
Ah, yes. My ex-wife, before she was the ex, some years back she drove an older BMW. One day she came to me and said, "Honey, what is that red light mean on the dash?" Well, it turned out to be the oil light. I asked, "How long has it been on?" She said, "Oh, 3 or 4 days. I just thought I'd ask you about it but kept forgetting to."

Moral of the story: Women should not drive cars.

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ps. No harm to the engine in the BMW. Lucky for her, the ****.

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I can feel the love in the air.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Some MINI dealers are better than others

In my experience some MINI dealers just don't want to warranty your car. I had a check engine light come on because of a fault code thrown by my 15% pulley giving a funny reading to my catalytic converter, and one dealer wanted to charge me $75.00 just to reset my check light!!
I said no thanks, and took it to a second dealer who sells pulleys as a DEALER INSTALLED OPTION, and they not only reset my check engine light for free, but determined that after 25k miles my catalytic converter went bad! So they replaced it. I also have software, skunk2 cat-back exhaust, and a madness intake, none of which they even raised an eyebrow about. This same dealer also replaced my 02 sensors just for good measure.
The dealer that wanted to charge me to reset the check light is actually the same dealer that I bought the car at, and the funny thing is that they are great for anything non engine related. I went to them last week(partly because they are about 45 minutes closer than the other dealer) for a faulty passenger side window motor, and my vinyl steering wheel was peeling apart. So they took care of the window, and replaced the whole steering wheel with a lbrand new leather one!!!
That said, and from quite a few other Mini dealers I've visted, it appears that no two Mini dealers are alike, but then again there are not too many MINI's that are exactly alike either, to each his own I guess!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Bottom line:


Man's engine blows.....dealer says oil was low....man blows his top accussed MINI dealer of highway robbery and worst. Bunch of people jump on the wagon and have at bashing MINI the dealer and the world around them.
In the meantime (and as usual) some cool headed investigation leads to the culprit(s) being basically criminals. The man whose car it is, of course goes on a long trip and does not check his oil (read the manual.....) so naturally how could it possibly be his fault.
Saddest part of all, I have yet to see the starter of this thread post an apology to MINI and or the dealer for bad mouthing them for no reason.
 
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