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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
I had a '90 civic before the Mini, why?
well that explains your attitude then.

you used to be a ricer.

 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
now enough of talking this thread of topic and lets help the OP fix at least one of his projects.
taking*

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Are we going to collectively troubleshoot the flat over the internet?
did i ask how to fix my flat? i posted that in my venting thread, not in this thread.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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exactly
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpedout97x
well that explains your attitude then.

you used to be a ricer.

At least my car ran? How are you doing?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpedout97x

did i ask how to fix my flat? i posted that in my venting thread, not in this thread.
Based on success of everything else you touch you should ask for help.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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I don't understand this bickering. OP asked for help cause he can't solve things on his own. This seems to be a serious problem which others are also unable to resolve. I just hope it is not related to some of his mods and that it did not void the warranty on his car and that the dealer will fix it at no charge.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Okay, okay, okay now. Let's stick to the topic at hand and stop with the namecalling and generalized noise here. I'd hate to lock the thread before a resolution is found.

Simple test for accessory drag is removing the belt. If the engine spins over easier, a driven accessory is the culprit. Anything that does not spin freely by hand, save for the blower which takes a bit of effort compared to everything else, is the likely suspect.

With a fresh battery, if the voltage drops to about 9 volts at the battery terminals, the draw is way excessive and almost always indicates a bad starter. A small drop but sluggish starting indicates bad connections, a loose ground strap (kinda common on MINIs), or a bad starter or solenoid.

A beeping-like squeak as the engine is trying to turn over is usually caused by high current flow through the solenoid. This usually means the starter motor is bad as well.

The starter is replaced somewhat easy but only after removing the exhaust header and the heat shields above and below it. The bolts holding the starter go all the way through the flywheel housing and into the trans, so they are big 10mm bolts the same as the rest of the engine-to-trans bolts. They are tight and a bit tough to get a grip on without a selection of socket extensions and a u-joint. There are two of them, plus the wiring. easy swap once it's loose.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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I'm not going to say anything about the previous page and a half after my OP but...

I still think it's the starter
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
At least my car ran? How are you doing?
my car still runs.

thanks for playing, but you fail.

try again.

Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
Based on success of everything else you touch you should ask for help.
im sorry, i was driving my car, which im pretty sure thats what your supposed to use a car for, and something gave me a flat tire...?????

fail, yet again.

thanks for playing though.

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I don't understand this bickering. OP asked for help cause he can't solve things on his own. This seems to be a serious problem which others are also unable to resolve. I just hope it is not related to some of his mods and that it did not void the warranty on his car and that the dealer will fix it at no charge.

car is out of warranty regardless.


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I still think it's the starter
me too.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpedout97x
my car still runs.

thanks for playing, but you fail.

try again.



i'm sorry, i was driving my car, which i'm pretty sure that's what you're supposed to use a car for and something gave me a flat tire...?????

fail, yet again.

thanks for playing, though.




car is out of warranty regardless.




me too.
There you go spelling boy. I know how big of a stickler you're [ your vs you're. look it up] for spelling and grammar. I would not go around calling fail on anyone with that Explorer still sitting in your daddy's garage. Good luck with your flat. Take lots of pictures. Keep us updated on the progress.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatbear
Okay, okay, okay now. Let's stick to the topic at hand and stop with the namecalling and generalized noise here. I'd hate to lock the thread before a resolution is found.

Simple test for accessory drag is removing the belt. If the engine spins over easier, a driven accessory is the culprit. Anything that does not spin freely by hand, save for the blower which takes a bit of effort compared to everything else, is the likely suspect.

With a fresh battery, if the voltage drops to about 9 volts at the battery terminals, the draw is way excessive and almost always indicates a bad starter. A small drop but sluggish starting indicates bad connections, a loose ground strap (kinda common on MINIs), or a bad starter or solenoid.

A beeping-like squeak as the engine is trying to turn over is usually caused by high current flow through the solenoid. This usually means the starter motor is bad as well.

The starter is replaced somewhat easy but only after removing the exhaust header and the heat shields above and below it. The bolts holding the starter go all the way through the flywheel housing and into the trans, so they are big 10mm bolts the same as the rest of the engine-to-trans bolts. They are tight and a bit tough to get a grip on without a selection of socket extensions and a u-joint. There are two of them, plus the wiring. easy swap once it's loose.
Thanks for the information.

(Is it possible to restrict a user from a thread? It is very annoying to be reading a thread trying to learn and gather information when there is all this "noise.")
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ofioliti
Thanks for the information.

(Is it possible to restrict a user from a thread? It is very annoying to be reading a thread trying to learn and gather information when there is all this "noise.")
Ignore button is under the user profile.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Agreed, let's find a resolution to the issue.
 

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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
There you go spelling boy. I know how big of a stickler you're [ your vs you're. look it up] for spelling and grammar. I would not go around calling fail on anyone with that Explorer still sitting in your daddy's garage. Good luck with your flat. Take lots of pictures. Keep us updated on the progress.
im sorry i dont own a house yet at age 20. if you did, good job for you, but i dont. nothing wrong with still living with your parents at age 20.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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car is officially dead.

it doesnt start.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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time to consult the mighty GreatBear, i thinks...
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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What's different?

Did anything get changed, or you just go out there and turn the key and no starting? Did it click, turn over and not fire? Did the voltage drop and not turn? There are a lot of ways that it "won't start", but without more info, those of us willing to help don't have anything to go on....

Matt
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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I hope you get it worked out. It must be frustrating not to be able to drive your car.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1010110
Ignore button is under the user profile.
Well thanks! If we all ignore you, does that really mean that you go away?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Well thanks! If we all ignore you, does that really mean that you go away?
I don't know. But as long as you keep replying to me either the button is not working, or there is a user failure.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Did someone say something...
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
Did anything get changed, or you just go out there and turn the key and no starting? Did it click, turn over and not fire? Did the voltage drop and not turn? There are a lot of ways that it "won't start", but without more info, those of us willing to help don't have anything to go on....

Matt
i went in the garage just to try and start it, radio and everything will work fine, but i try to start, and it hesitates like it has been, then it just stopped, and clicked a few times, then nothing. ill have to get another video to better explain it.

btw- im getting a spare tire today to put on, and my new Nitto replacement will be here in 3-4 days
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HighLife4136
Did someone say something...
Yep, definite user failure.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Hey Pimp, I would look at that little amp you are running. Back in a day I had a similar problem where an amp went bad and was draining the battery. Seriously.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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What'd your voltage gauge say?

Clicking is low voltage, typically.

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