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R50/53 SRT-4 engine swap into MINI?

Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Don't waste your money........just get a 2.0L from Jan and have him work his magic. I am sure high 200's hp would be no problem and a he!! of a lot cheaper.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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400whp is overkill for auto-x. heck, I have a ton of power and can't put most of it down in auto-x.

Maybe, but it'd be FUN.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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You could always swap in the 2nd gen motor and build it up before you drop it in. just an idea though...
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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^^^ good idea above here!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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dang my 1 good idea for the year... well I'm spent now haha
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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dang my 1 good idea for the year... well I'm spent now haha
I agree... that is a good idea... is it a straight swap? what is needed? I think ill save up!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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I have no idea to tell you the truth. I doubt it's just a straight swap. But I bet it is a lot simpler than the SRT-4 motor simply b/c of less wiring. as far as mounts though to tell you the truth I haven't really looked in the 2nd gen engine bay, but if people dualcharge the r53 I don't see why the swap couldn't be done. Can anyone shed some light on this? I'm just curious for the sake of my own knowledge now
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Completely different engines, ECU, fuel system. Just go for a built OEM, much easier and cheaper and fully capable of getting into the high 200's hp (or even more....... )
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Why did you buy a MINI then?
Hey whats the rest of your sigs pic look like? lol
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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^I was waiting for someone to ask that
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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I think the mods would ban me if I showed anyone or sent any links.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Don't waste your money........just get a 2.0L from Jan and have him work his magic. I am sure high 200's hp would be no problem and a he!! of a lot cheaper.
+1

 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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so no details on the 1st gen to 2nd gen motor swap? I know I won't be doing it but it's been bugging me all night haha
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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Hasn't been done and won't be done. They are completely different motors.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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I think the mods would ban me if I showed anyone or sent any links.
a private message would be okay! hahaha
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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BTW if the srt4 motor is the same block, wouldnt it be a straight forward swap?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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It is not the same block.......just the same design and manufacturer.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Hasn't been done and won't be done. They are completely different motors.
Money can buy you anything, though. Blastolene Brothers build hand built aluminum bodied cars powered by tank engines converted to propane. Some guy built a 40's era sedan powered by a 360 Stradale drivetrain. Need I remind anyone of this:
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Hasn't been done and won't be done. They are completely different motors.
So are the honda f22 and h22 motors but people swap those all the time. Does anyone have an idea of what it would take to put the R56 motor, the N14, in the R53 chasis in place of the W11? even though that question sounds like a ricer question...
 

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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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The way I see it, there is nothing wrong with this kind of swap. I also see nothing wrong with a honda b series swap into a mini. People buy minis because of the way the look and the way they handle, not because of the raw power, but try and find a similar priced car that will drive as good and be as fun as a mini but have the power of an srt4. As far as I know, it doesn't exist. There is no difference in my opinion between putting an srt4 engine in a mini than putting a big turbo or twin charge on one. Why not have the best of both worlds? handling and power...what a concept. Also remember that we are using the same engines that are in neons...just with better internals.

I would be curious to see how it would perform with some major suspension mods.

They are similar blocks, but not the same. They didn't just bore out the mini engine to a 2.4l.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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myke@RPI obviously the 2nd gen motor hasn't been put in the 1st gen yet. so it looks like you are on your own... I looked up some stuff on the two cars wiring and dimensions of motor/trans. It doesn't appear to be to hard. I couldn't tell about the mounting points or weather or not the hydraulics for the clutch or linkage itself was any different. Best bet would be to look at yours and then a newer one side by side and check it out.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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I love my SRT-4, thanks.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SRT4
I love my SRT-4, thanks.
That's your first post!!
I think you just love the sound of it.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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I'm glad someone likes them... lol j/k for how quick they are for the price it's a good deal... I just can't get over that whole neon thing
 
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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You can do anything you want if you have enough money......but is it worth it?
 
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