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Navigation & Audio Anyone installed the Alpine IVA-D310 or similar?

Old Jul 16, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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I have the 310. I have had it for a year not and love it. I agree with the above posts that the iPod integration is very slow, but you can scroll all your artists and playlists.

I had my installer mount the "brain" in the footwell of the passenger side. No bother to anyone who has ridden in the car.

FWIW, I would go with the IVA W200 now if I had a 2-DIN car. In fact that is what we are doing in out new GTI.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jfunkmd
I have the 310. I have had it for a year not and love it. I agree with the above posts that the iPod integration is very slow, but you can scroll all your artists and playlists.

I had my installer mount the "brain" in the footwell of the passenger side. No bother to anyone who has ridden in the car.

FWIW, I would go with the IVA W200 now if I had a 2-DIN car. In fact that is what we are doing in out new GTI.
When you scroll does it feel like it lags? Or is it about the same as if you were scrolling on the Ipod? If its just a search function I have no problem with it, but if you notice a few seconds to access an artist, then album then song (just how I access stuff on my Ipod), I would probably wait for a better head unit.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sfgrunge
Thanks everyone for all your help. I think that I am sold on the D100. The other thing I liked about the D100 was that it comes with a AMP instead of a control box (d310). That is one less box to mount if you were to add an AMP to the D310. And it makes it easier if you want to upgrade the AMP later.

Now, the next decision is the NAV. Do I go for the in-car NAV NVE-872A or the Alpine Blackbird? They both interface with the D100. The 872 has the 3D view, much faster processor and voice control. The Blackbird is cool since you can get the new dock and external antenna and mount it out of the way (like the glove compartment or boot). Then I would always have a portable GPS as well as the in-car option. Plus the Blackbird is $1000 less..... If anyone has any opinions I would love to hear them.
The primary difference between the NVE-872A and the Blackbird is the Points of Interest database in the NVE-872A (~14,000,000), also, the NVE-872A can be integrated with the touch display of the IVA-D100. Blackbird has smaller POI database (don't remember the approx. no., but it is something like 6,000,000 POIs) and you have to interface with the Blackbird from its screen. Once the address to go to has been programmed into the Blackbird (using the Blackbird's screen), then the turn-by-turn directions can be sent to the D100 via the aux-in interface.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
The primary difference between the NVE-872A and the Blackbird is the Points of Interest database in the NVE-872A (~14,000,000), also, the NVE-872A can be integrated with the touch display of the IVA-D100. Blackbird has smaller POI database (don't remember the approx. no., but it is something like 6,000,000 POIs) and you have to interface with the Blackbird from its screen. Once the address to go to has been programmed into the Blackbird (using the Blackbird's screen), then the turn-by-turn directions can be sent to the D100 via the aux-in interface.
I've read several articles (including an Alpine press release) that say using the Blackbird dock (PMD-DOK1) full control is transferred to the AV head unit. The dock has yet to be released (from what I can find), so we have to take Apline's word on that one.....

Here is a link to the press release.
http://www.alpine-usa.com/company_in...506_avplus.htm
 
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sfgrunge
I've read several articles (including an Alpine press release) that say using the Blackbird dock (PMD-DOK1) full control is transferred to the AV head unit. The dock has yet to be released [Emphasis added.] (from what I can find), so we have to take Apline's word on that one.....

Here is a link to the press release.
http://www.alpine-usa.com/company_in...506_avplus.htm
The only problem with Alpine products (from my personal experience) is the over-optimistic release dates. I wanted to put an IVA-W200 in my Volvo XC90 (if ever there was a car that needed the factory stereo system replaced, that is it...). The release date was March, 2006. The IVA-W200 showed up at the installer on June 20th.... And, they only got 2 of 10 that they ordered.... I can speak from personal experience - the Alpine NVE-872A system is really easy to use. Blackbird????
 
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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The only problem with Alpine products (from my personal experience) is the over-optimistic release dates. I wanted to put an IVA-W200 in my Volvo XC90 (if ever there was a car that needed the factory stereo system replaced, that is it...). The release date was March, 2006. The IVA-W200 showed up at the installer on June 20th....
I totally agree with you. The bluetooth module I had on order was 3 months late(which did not work with my Alpine sat module ) and would not hold my breath on the delivery date on the docking station. That is the only reason I have not picked up the Blackbird. ( I did use the demo unit and it did map out a resteraunt my wife and I wanted to get to that eve.)
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
I can speak from personal experience - the Alpine NVE-872A system is really easy to use. Blackbird????
That is great to hear. I was pretty much set on the 872A before I heard about the Blackbird integration. It sounded really cool, but I am not one to be on the cutting edge.... Plus like you said I may have to wait until all of the parts are available.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bonz
I totally agree with you. The bluetooth module I had on order was 3 months late(which did not work with my Alpine sat module ) and would not hold my breath on the delivery date on the docking station. That is the only reason I have not picked up the Blackbird. ( I did use the demo unit and it did map out a resteraunt my wife and I wanted to get to that eve.)

Hey Bonz,

Did you see my previous post about the KCA-410C? I am really curious to know if that would work....

Originally Posted by sfgrunge
Is that because both Sat radio and BT are using Ai-Net? Couldn't you install a KCA-410C and use both? In the BT manual there is an example install that has both the BT and a CD changer that use the KCA-410C (Versatile Link Terminal) that provides an additional Ai-Net port. Just wondering....
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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Hey sfgrunge,

Hey Bonz,

Did you see my previous post about the KCA-410C? I am really curious to know if that would work
I did see that post and it would be nice to know if that would solve the problem, but no one can tell me for SURE it would work. My installer is 2 hours away and he is great but he does not carry Alpine & my local Tweeter guys can't tell me plus I really do not want to have my interior taken out for the 3rd time. BUT ....... I was told that the Ai-net was the problem.

Later


PS. probally going to go with the Motorola IHF1000 BT
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by koldkoala
When you scroll does it feel like it lags? Or is it about the same as if you were scrolling on the Ipod? If its just a search function I have no problem with it, but if you notice a few seconds to access an artist, then album then song (just how I access stuff on my Ipod), I would probably wait for a better head unit.
I notice the scroll lag but not when I go from Artist to album to song titles. It is way slow especially to get to those artists in the middle of the alphabet. I do have a rather full iPod 20gig though.

All in all I am extremely happy and considering what was available a year ago it was the best choice. Now I would go with the new 100 or if double DIN is an option the W200. That's what's going in the GTI
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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how's the screen angle? does it point towards the floor as it might appear by looking at the dash above the radio mounting location?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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The screen is parallel to the speedo but the angle can be changed if needed. I think there are provisions that can change the angle of the screen towards the driver. I will take a better pic this week-end.
 
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