Just to help my US MTH buddy out...Dont forget to put in your Keycode you will receive with your .MTH file. So Load up your NEW file...enter the code into the blue box...then press the upload button.

 

Thanks! I knew I was forgetting somehthing. Original post edited.

 

Note to Automatic owners:

If the car runs really strange and has an EML light on it with Tuner file, drive 50 miles and the ECU and the ECM for the Transmission will sync back up and everything will be fine. This is just due to the new programming having to talk to the transmission, and get everything sorted out.

 

Do you mean MCSa? Or MC CVT?

 

MSCa

 

Just wondering If it doesn't sync up can i get my money back if i bought it ?

 

It always sync's up, its the way that the computers talk (and the fact that there is no reasonable way to program the Transmission Computer without very specialized equipment).

 

>ONE D ca. 98 BHP
>ONE ca. 125 BHP
>COOPER ca. 125 BHP
>COOPER S ca. 190 BHP

what is the meaning of ca?

 

Approximately

 

Just to expand what Volker said and in no way pretending to be a language expert...
"Ca." is an a abreviation for the Latin word "circa". Usually used to loosly reference a date...
-B

 

Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrect

 

that's what latin classes were for while I was in college... I guess I should have take it then

 

Thanks for your kind explanation

 

Ok I ordered the Cable/Tuner combo from MTH-USA today. Where do I get CarTune? I dont see it on the website. Will it come with the cable when it ships?

 

I am plannigng to purchase header from MTH but I do not know where should I purchase from either USA or Germany.
I want to reduce the shipping cost as much as possible.

shipping address is Japan.
plz give me some advice.

 

You get CARTUNE by mail once you ordered your file and we have received payment.

 

So with the TUNER file you get 200hp out of a STOCK MCS? No pulley no nothing? How much can I expect out of a STOCK MCS '03 with a 3" cat-back exhaust with only one muffler?

Thanks.

And while I'm at it, how many hp does a 15/17/19% pulley add?

 

Don't expect 200hp out of that. Check out the thread on this support forum called "JCW and Tuner File..."- He got 207 hp [estimated at the crank] out of a JCW [14% reduction pulley] plus stainless header, alta CAI, and MTH Tuner, along with plugs and coil pack on street fuel. Even with the MTH header, there's just no way you can count on 200 hp if you use the commonly accepted 12-13% driveline loss. Maybe if you're _really_ lucky. 200 honest hp takes a _lot_ more than the MTH Tuner file on an average stock MCS.

 

Yes but you're talking at the wheels arn't you? The MCS does not have 163hp at the wheels. So you cant mix and match, if you're gonna talk hp at the wheels, what does the MCS have stock at the wheels?

 

No, at the crank, d00d. The car posted 'crank' dyno runs, because that seems to be the par outside of the US. I asked him. His car made 207 [estimated] crank hp with tuner plus all of the above. He didn't post what driveline loss the dyno he used employed, so we can only guess what actual whp he is achieving. Don't expect 200 crank hp out of just a re-tune. You'll be setting yourself up for disappointment, that's all.

 

You still didn't answer my question, how big is the difference between a STOCK MCS and a MTH TUNER MCS?


STOCK MCS - 163HP
MTH TUNER MCS - xxxHP

 

Oh, well, sorry for that. Truth is, we on NAM have no earthly idea. It's definately not as advertised from what we do know...what it is, I cannot say.

 

Oh, okay, thanks.

So, MTH is claiming 200hp? But there are no dynos for it or what?

 

exactly. There just aren't any dyno runs around with stock mcs's, and the ones we do see show far more mods are necessary to get around 200 hp.

 

So are you saying MTH has not backed up their claims? I ask because of this:

Under the Federal Trade Commission Act:

• advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive;
• advertisers must have evidence to back up their claims;

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/ad-faqs.htm

Note the part where advertisers must have evidence to back up their claim or they are in VIOLATION of Federal Law

Also it says "ads that make claims that consumers would have trouble evaluating for themselves," meaning that the FTC looks closely at ads that the average consumer would have a hard time personally evaluating.

Just wondering