So are we using the closest, or the closest without going over rule? I'm guessing that if we use the last one things might be looking a little rough for Jim. But that's just my guess lol.

 

I've priced MOTEC before for a twin turbo Z

 

OMYYYGOOOOOOOD !!!! Guess that ain't gonna be the new latest a greatest for mini tuning anytime soon. Holy smokes

 

Different processor though so I'm hoping the price will be different as well. Was it the M800 or M600 you priced out and did it include the custom looms?

 

It was a while ago... M800 rings a bell and it was only for a few sensors like crank and etc. Wasn't full package.

Again this was in the 90's... I may be wrong hopefully!

 

I've seen pricing for motorcycles and they were 7k to 12k. Interesting that you guys are having trouble getting prices, not that I've tried, but I've seen a few of their buildings up in Mooresville.

 

Mark at Real Street is out of the office. Haven't gotten an email back from Britospeed yet either. May just have to give them a ring. My interest in the Motec is more of a curiosity thing. Having reviewed several of the TriCore architecture manuals I have a pretty good feel for what these ECU's are capable of. If the same core can handle the 6 cylinder turbo charged N55 it should be able to handle our 4 cylinder with room to spare. The core MPU is 32 bit but can also execute 16 bit code at need to reduce file size, is capable of parallel processing and has a 128 bit wide data bus so it's no slouch. I'm just tickled pink I don't don't have to open the case anymore!!! Yeah!!! Wohoo!!!!

 

So I'm very curious, like you, and inquired to a shop local to me (Denver). They have responded and here's what they said:


"The cost of the base M1 ECU is $5802. There is a small adapter harness required, and we are waiting to get some more info on that part. If you want additional logging features and analysis upgrades, it will cost up to $2000 extra depending on what features you want."

 

This is the company here in CO that offers the MOTEC if you all are interested:


http://www.3rauto.com/

 

Just got back from VP Racing. Managed to get two 5 gal. cans of M1 for the price of one. It's either a sign, or it's the same trick drug dealer use to get you hooked lol.

 

Here have one on me... you'll love it.... hooked for life

 

What's the octane rating?

 

Whats m1 gone for down there ?
M5 alcohol is 40 bucks for 5

 

$6,302.00

 

WHAT !! 6300 bucks for fuel ?!?! Lordly lordly i hope not.

 

Not fuel...ECU...Electronic Control Units

 

Does M1 come in different octane?

 

M1 is only one, but VP makes a few different M's in Methanol here is a a screen shot

mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer

 

A quick search on-line will return all kinds of answers, but according to The Society of Automotive Engineers specification SAE-J1297 the octane rating for 100% pure alcohols is as follows:

Methanol - 133 (RON) & 105 (MON) - octane rating ((R+M)/2) = 119
Ethanol - 129 (RON) & 102 (MON) - octane rating ((R+M)/2) = 115

 

Hey tigger, mind if i throw this one at ya ?
Whats the octane rating on the M5 methanol ?
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁. Thats the good stuff !!
Careful careful if you use this stuff folks. Hehehehehe

 

$37 per gallon. Be very careful on which methanol blend you run as some kits won't work with additives. The M1 is 99.95% pure methanol. The M3 and M5 products have petroleum distillates added. If you run either of these in an Aquamist system it will fail, as the seals are not compatible with petroleum products. You can tell if methanol is pure by using an eye dropper and adding a drop of water to it. If it is not pure you will see a small cloudy appearance when the drop hits that will then quickly disappear.

 

I run methanol in my sprintcar. When im not running in the 360 class i re-jet for the M5 fuel and run in the 410 class. 55 gallons of pure is $125 up here. 47 dollars i do believe for the M5, but the price changes so much on it. The M5 has ALOT of oxygenated additives in it that 90% of racing divisions do not allow. That being said, tigger im gonna make a new post for the next question.

 

So we add methanol injection to improve performance. But what exactly is happening when we turn the system on ?
Do we use 50/50 mix ?
Straight methanol ?
Whats the best thing to do ?
If we are using it to suppress detonation so we can run more boost, why can be use a mixer of say nitromethane ? Nitro is extremely hard to ignite, but when it does, LOOK OUT !! Another additive i found on my endless searches for fuel additives to suppress detonation to run higher compression ratios on the street was acetone, yup !! It was on the list as an old school fuel additive for the, god i hate to say the word, cheaters, wait wait, pushing the rules envelope racers, there, now i don't feel so bad.
So if we are using the water/methanol, methanol to also cool the egt's, i don't think the nitro or M5 would be a good choice since the both BUILD HEAT when finally fired
So help us out tigger. This methanol injection is getting more and more popular now a days

 

Acetone?! The same stuff my wife uses as her nail polish remover? If so, jeez. Now I assume back in the day they did not have an extra injection system, so were they adding this straight into their fuel tank?

 

Yes, thats the exact same stuff. I'll see if i can can find the article and pm it to ya