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R50/53 GP Troubleshoot (DSC/Tire/ABS lights)

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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 05:40 PM
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GP Troubleshoot (DSC/Tire/ABS lights)

Would appreciate some help figuring out the right sequence for investigation here, though maybe I already have it. My '06 GP (81k mi) has recently done the following:

1. Intermittent traction control light flickers and cuts power. When I disable DSC, this stops. The first time this happened I pulled a wheel speed sensor issue, but I haven't been able to capture that error again.
Now that seems pretty straight forward and a likely culprit (as I understand, that sensor failing would trigger limp mode?)

2. With DSC disabled and an additional 10-15 minutes of driving, my tire pressure and ABS lights both come on.

3. The weird thing is then I pull P000D Code: Exhaust “B” Camshaft Position Slow Response Bank 2.

Engine runs and idles as normal otherwise, I can't feel any loss in power, and these issues don't present when I start the car up/in the first 10 minutes of driving.

Is there any scenario where these are correlated or am I likely looking at two separate issues with sensors? Battery is new.

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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 05:45 PM
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Sounds familiar but there literally is 20 years of posts about it here. Not trying to be a douche excuse me I have Autism but this gets asked almost daily.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 05:59 PM
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Thanks for taking your time to write that. I see no posts referencing the P000D code, but perhaps you could point me to one?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 06:42 PM
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Sorry about that. So many people lately want to be spoon fed instead of researching. If you plan on keeping it long term suggest installing ista + as it will literally walk you through step by step at dealer level for issues.

check your grounds especially one attached to upper motor mount. Also check f4 fuse and the fuse underneath it. Therr is a layer of fuses under what you see. Also check the cam sensor connector for corrison. Also the crank shaft sensor and connector. Report back and we can go from there
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 03:11 AM
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Basically you are getting the light trifecta. Normally this comes down to speed sensors, the simplest of fixes, or needing new wheel bearings. A scan tool, like a schwaben or insta on a laptop, should show you live data. You can read that live data on each wheel to see where your problem is. If you replace the speed sensors use oem, don’t ask how I know. You can try pulling the sensors out and cleaning them. I did this just to drive home from Tennessee, order all new sensors when I got home and replaced them.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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the p000D changes things in this scenario beyond the basic trifecta. Usually its either due to wiring under the fuse block or the cam phase sensor itself or the crank sensor as the dme cant figure out whats going on between the two.

When there is a cam/crank/torque sync issue the dme throws false trifecta signals because it cant compute the values to calculate torque which tells it its likely spinning tires or sliding. Down fall of torque-based tuning.
 

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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 02:48 PM
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In the spirit of closing the loop -- finally got the GP on a lift for a bunch of work and we saw that a wire was rubbing in the passenger side wheel well the past couple hundred miles (can't remember if that's the wheel speed or abs wire though...) Fortunately the wire wasn't totally shot - wrapped it in electrical tape, tucked it away, and all errors disappeared!

Last weekend also went back from urethane control arm and sway bar bushings to stock rubber and the car feels amazing. Previous owner had removed the lower spring pads too...added those and overall I'm so happy with how the car feels. Just need to replace the exhaust brackets and I think the only sounds I hear will be supercharger and hard corner wheel squeaks again!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 09:38 AM
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...Steering Angle Sensor. My 2 cents worth.
 
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