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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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SGII vs UG

Hey guys im looking at getting one of these, i see that the UG is much cheaper and looks like a better interface, but does the UG have the ability to clear codes?

please enlighten me to which i should get
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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I use a SGII but as you see the UG can too.



UltraGauge not only displays all current Engine trouble codes but also codes for potential or intermittent faults. With UltraGauge, checking engine codes is easy. UltraGauge also proactively scans for trouble while you are driving and alerts if trouble is found.
UltraGauge uses the same fundamental technology that automotive mechanics use and can display all current Engine trouble codes. Eliminate the hassle, time and expense of taking your vehicle to an automotive repair center. Repair centers charge $50 or more to read trouble codes.
Avoid faults that can lead to expensive and untimely break downs.
Many states are now eliminating the need for traditional tailpipe-based smog testing and are moving to examining trouble codes to determine the emission status of vehicles. By knowing your vehicle has no existing or pending trouble codes, your vehicle is likely to pass with ease.
Check Engine Light on?
No problem !
UltraGauge can also turn off that annoying check engine light !
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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i saw that, but it doesnt seem to me like it actually clears it
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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i have a UG, i think its great. it can clear codes but i have not ahd any codes to clear yet, or any pending codes. knock on wood. take a look at the user manual for UG it will give a a whole lot better picture of what it can and cant do. but i got it becasue i think the display is great.

http://ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/su...al_3_30_13.pdf

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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 07:08 AM
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the UG definently looks better, how does the boost pressure refresh? cause i was thinking of getting an analog one to go with it, but i definently want voltage and engine/coolant/oil temp
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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it can refresh between 0.3 - 2.0 seconds you choose where to set it. i have it set to 0.3s and its good enough. it also depends on bus load on your obd2 port, i have read that some people that have alot of stuff hooked up to the obd2 can cause this thing to slow down. demand for info is too high, so it cant move it fast enough. same with the SC2
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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I have both and prefer the SGII, but see no reason not to get the cheeper UG.

The UG is a little more difficult to change on the fly but does offer 7 screens with up to 8 displays on each screen.
With the SGII it is easy to change any of the 4 displays while driving.

But, if you set up the UG the way you want it, you should never lack for information.

Maybe I just got used to the SGII but it is easy to use for me.

There were some issues with the UG being completely compatable with R53, I think they would drian batteries for some cars if not set up correctly.
I tried the UG on my Miata so I don't know for sure.

I will be putting the UG in my wife's car
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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I have the ultragauge, love it

I couldn't justify the cost of the SG2 for my needs...

and i jumped on a group buy for the ultragauge...

the SG2 in the r56 I autox seems to work fine, but I didn't see the advantage over the ultraguage
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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you would have to leave the car not driven for months and months for it to drain. it uses very little power when you car is off. almost nothing. i have never had any problems with it yet.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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I use the Scangauge in each of my MINI's.

And we sell them preprogrammed with these special R56 gauges:
Engine oil temp
A/F ratio
Fuel rail pressure
Engine Temp
Trans fluid temp on AT cars
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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all great info guys... just need 1 little bit, does the UG clear codes?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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yes, it does the same code reading and clearing as any general automtive reader. to do anything more than that you will need bmw specific software
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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The UG does not read pending or trouble codes on my R60. UG is aware of this issue. Not sure if it is an N18 issues or just R60.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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The ug does not read a/f for the r53 well mine don't unless I somehow passed it when setting it up so if that's important to you go with the sgII if it show it. it would be nice to have. but I do love mine
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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the SGII can get A/F???
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
the SGII can get A/F???
We can get A/F on R56 and newer cars. Sorry doesn't work on R53.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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this is what is in the UG manual never tried it yet. i will when i go home.

AFR commanded ratio 0 to 1.999 AFR cmd
Fuel Air Commanded ratio. This is the value of Lambda requested by the ECM
= (Stoichiometric F/A ratio) / (Actual F/A ratio) >1 is lean, <1 is rich.
To determine the actual A/F ratio commanded, multiply this value by 14.64
For example. If this value is 0.90, the commanded Air Fuel Ration is 0.90* 14.64 = 13.17 parts air to one part fuel.
 
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