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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Replaced my 2011 with a 2013

So, I took the plunge. MINI/BMW Canada's offer to replace my troubled 2011 and get a fresh start.

I picked up my replacement Light White 2013 CMS All4 today. Dealership was nice enough to put on my winter tires :D Hopefully, this one will be trouble free and lightning won't strike twice.

Here she is, Rally Pig's replacement, Urban Panda. Completely gone from the dark side into the light side.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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Was your '11 a 6sp? If so what is your take on the new clutch?

Congrats on the new(er) ride!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Thanks! Yes, my old one was a 6spd and I've put 26k kms on it. My clutch wasn't as horrible as some people on this forum are experiencing, but I did go through the smelly clutch, ambiguous feel, and the clutch biting almost above 3/4 up from the floor. It was also had a clunk from time-to-time when I release. I've put up a thread about the clutch last week when I was test driving.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...13-clutch.html

Basically, hard to tell until the clutch is broken in. It definitely bites earlier than my 2011 (about halfway up from the floor). I feel a difference, but not as big a difference as I thought it would be. That was the first manual car I've owned with a dual-mass flywheel setup. I've mostly owned Subaru's, Honda's and Mazda's in the past. I'll post again once I'm done with the break-in period of 2000 kms. I have not gotten a smelly clutch yet which is a good sign (I did on my 2011 the first day I drove it home).

The 2013 clutch felt the same as regardless of JCW or Cooper S All4 trim. Drove them back to back. Which is why I decided to give MINI a second chance, but not enough trust them to put more money to get into a JCW. They have to earn my trust back, and getting me a deal on this replacement is a first big step.
 

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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Doh....
I even posted in that thread.
I look forward to peoples long run reports for this new clutch. It really is the only thing keeping me from "loving" this car!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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What sort of issues did you have with the 2011?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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Good luck with your new ride. I like the wheels. Are they from the 3 series BMW? If not where did you get them if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Good luck with your new ride. I like the wheels. Are they from the 3 series BMW? If not where did you get them if you don't mind me asking?
They look like replicas from an e92 m3

 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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What sort of issues did you have with the 2011?
The official issue that sparked the replacement was in the last 5 months, my car has been in an out in the service center for a total of 6 weeks for the same problem: oil leaks. They fix one thing, give it back to me, and it will leak on another spot a week or two later.

Ironically, I think they finally got it all right a couple of weeks ago, but the ball was already in motion and MINI Canada and my dealership already offered me a deal on a new 2013. I could have gone with a JCW but of course, it would mean more money from me even though it was a heck of a deal, I didn't want to give them any more money until the brand earns my trust. If the clutch felt better on the JCW, I would've probably seriously considered it. But it felt the same as the regular 2013 Cooper S All4.

Good thing is that in my case, MINI Canada stood by their product, and my dealership was also very good and helped me through the process. Never once did I feel that I was left out to dry or felt like I would have to take any legal action or third party arbitration.
 

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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Good luck with your new ride. I like the wheels. Are they from the 3 series BMW? If not where did you get them if you don't mind me asking?
They are BMW M3 replicas that a local tire shop carried. I got them before my first winter season for the 2011:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-bmw-rims.html

No modification at all. Tires sits flush with the fender. No rubbing. I love the look, I get a lot of compliments with it. Some of my friends jokingly say my car looked better in winter than in summer (I got the optional black compo 18's)
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by youthanasia
The official issue that sparked the replacement was in the last 5 months, my car has been in an out in the service center for a total of 6 weeks for the same problem: oil leaks. They fix one thing, give it back to me, and it will leak on another spot a week or two later.

Ironically, I think they finally got it all right a couple of weeks ago, but the ball was already in motion and MINI Canada and my dealership already offered me a deal on a new 2013. I could have gone with a JCW but of course, it would mean more money from me even though it was a heck of a deal, I didn't want to give them any more money until the brand earns my trust. If the clutch felt better on the JCW, I would've probably seriously considered it. But it felt the same as the regular 2013 Cooper S All4.

Good thing is that in my case, MINI Canada stood by their product, and my dealership was also very good and helped me through the process. Never once did I feel that I was left out to dry or felt like I would have to take any legal action or third party arbitration.
Well that just sucks. We've been about 8 months with my wife's All4 Auto with no problems at all. Hope you have much better luck with Urban Panda!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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I have to take ours in to Mini Downtown for oil leaks as well.........
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:08 AM
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Well that just sucks. We've been about 8 months with my wife's All4 Auto with no problems at all. Hope you have much better luck with Urban Panda!
Your wife's CMS All4 looks surf blue in the photo--the Cosmic Blues that I have seen are all really dark.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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My friend ED you have a surf blue CM not a Cosmic. Hope you still love it the same.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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we just turned in our 2011 countryman S for a new 2012 chili red special edition countryman s. We had starting problems and the car was at the dealer 6 times for the same trouble and they just couldn't seem to find the problem. I investigated the Florida lemon law and spoke to the dealership about the problem. They were very good about taking our problem car and replacing it with a new one of our choice. We felt no pressure, they worked with us from the beginning to the end. The bad one was our third Mini and the first with a major problem. It was amazing to go through the whole process without feeling that crummy feeling that one usually get when dealing with dealers.
 
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