Hi,

I have a 2006 MCSa R53. I recently got a 17% pulley added and will be getting my milltek exhaust hopefully next week. I also got 2 of the engine mounts changed to the Vibratechnics street ones. I changed my transmission oil to redline synthetic.

I am debating between

Thumper head, cam, gear, ported intake

vs

RMW header, RMW cam

then a tune after one of these.


The head, cam, gear etc will cost a lot more. Is there a lot more benefits ? Which is the weakest link atm? Head or header?

 

The head/cam/ported intake would get more HP than a header.

 

Hi Mike, I am the one actually contacting Will from concept III about mynes tune information.

How much more HP would the head/cam/port give vs the header/cam? Since its an automatic. I dont push it that hard since it shifts. I am mainly looking for mid range torque for DD/spirited driving.

What is your opinion I should mod next? I was considering a sprintex but is that harder to put on an automatic?

 

Hey Hiyono,

I also have a 2006 MCSa. Two weeks ago I had the RMW street cam and RMW street header (one with the cat) installed (car had alta intake, 15% pulley and Stratmosphere cat back initially). Difference was very noticable! Butt dyno is happy with purchase, wife dyno says "it's definitley faster". Soundwise the header is very laid back up to 3k rpm, you might not even really notice a difference (except for the fact there is more under your foot) when light cruising around and there is NO drone on the highway with my combo. But take it past 3k rpm and yes yes yes!!!

No tune yet, in fact running stock tune and stock injectors, so next step as I collect funds are the RMW 440's and a remote tune to tie it all together. This is about as far as I'd take this car: one thing to consider with the auto is the lack of available LSD and the limits of the tranny itself, with respect to oem style reliablility. I think once mine is tuned and ready it could be near the "on paper" limits of the aisin tranny. I'm basing that on reading somewhere that it's near identical to the 09G trannys in VW's, in which case that limit is 184lb-ft.

 

Hi Airguitarchampion,

Thanks for using your first post to msg me. Thats great info. I am having fun with the 17% pulley. Waiting on my Milltek exhaust to come in.

I hear different things. Some people say header and some say get a head. I guess either or would be good. :D

 

i say go for the rmw header, the cam, some 450cc injectors and a rmw dyno tune and you will be good for 230whp and 200lbtq

you will probably see the same numbers from the other set up you showed but for a lot more money

 

200Wtqe on a r53 with the mod list state above? what type of dyno? Did a search and have not been able to find a 200wtq (on a Dynojet) on any "S" manual, let alone an automatic. Pls share on here if you have those available. Tks.

For this customer, we will be doing a custom tune with his FA-Lite + 1320 CAT Cam + Bosch 550s when his DOS intake arrives in January 2013. Sticking with the OEM header b/c he needs to pass SMOG here in Cali.

 

Hiyono
I have an 05 auto with all you have listed and more. As far as whp & tq look at my dyno sheet. That should give you an idea of what to expect. I you need more infor from me just let me know.

 

As I stated in my previous post, on a Dynojet - not a DynaPack. Thanks

 

I'll put my vote in for Thumper, in part because of his work, and also because of his great customer service. Been nothing short of a great experience working with him.

I'll also vote for the ByteTronik software and Mynes. Another great product backed by a great company. It has also been a pleasure working with them.

I am halfway through the install of a Thumper head. Should be finished tomorrow. Had a TPR-1/NS1/ACG/Ported intake manifold and loved it. Now moved to something even more fun. Good stuff all the way around. Though the head is more expensive, it will allow for more options down the road. You mention looking into a Sprintex unit. If you're going to go that route in the future, you'll want a ported head. Might as well jump on that stage now instead of opening the motor up just to install the cam, then going back in later to put a new head on in preparation for upgrades like the Sprintex.

 

Bytetronik
I'm sorry but I didn't post my dyno chart Because of your post. I posted for Hyiono to get an idea of what you can expect. I really do not care what kind of dyno different people believe is the best. Maybe the next time I'll try it on a dyno-jet.

 

Mr. Checkers, apology accepted. We know you were only trying to help out another fellow MINI owner.

But it would me more useful to post targets that are more grounded and can be replicated by others with similiar mods and budget. And the dyno to compare HP #s is Dynojet for target and references (which also happens to be the industry standard).

Your MINI had made good powers, but isn't your MINI HIGHLY Modified? The original poster's budget is around $3000 for his mods, and I don't see how your HP numbers are close to what he can expect ... that $3000 budget is not even enough to cover the RMW Head+cam combo that's on your MINI, let alone the built motor and all the other good stuff.

Tuned MINI #1 (Dynapack): Your MCSa produced 194ft/lb of torque (to the hub) and 220 HP (to the hub) on Dynapack.
Reving to 6300rpm made 220 HP and 194ft/lb - mods are 19% pulley, RMW motor, RMW BVH & cam, RMW header, 380cc, exhaust and a tune?

Tuned MINI #2 (Dynapack): https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...28-post15.html
Reving to 7000rpm made 210 HP and 191ft/lb - 17% pulley + RMW tune

Tuned MINI #3 (Dynojet): https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...070-post3.html
Reving to 7200RPM made 190WHP / 170 Wtqe with a 17% pulley + RMW Tune

Tuned MINI #4 (Dynojet): https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...097-post5.html
Reving to 7200RPM made 191WHP / 168 Wtqe with a 15% pulley +WM +RMW Tune

OP: Your Target HP # should be closer to car #3 and #4, around 170whp range since your auto tranny won't allow it to rev past 6400rpm on the dyno. So that 800RPM is going to cost you 10 to 15WHP... Just wanted to point this out and set some real expectations since we'll be using a Dynojet to tune your MINI.

Like that State Farm commercial points out, "not everything on the internet is true."

 

Byteronik
You are correct in that my car has alot more mods than what Hyiono has on his list, but all I was trying to do was give him something to look at. Almost all the high HP cars are standard shifts and I know I like to see someone with and auto show some power. By the way I have a 17% s/c pulley and a 2% crank also it's not an RMW built engine. I had it done at EDGE MOTOR WORKS in Dublin, Ca. I'm not trying to pomote anyone or any produce.

 

If you have an MCSa, get that tranny oil change and save for a Valve Body...

 

Thanks PenelopeG3. I changed my oil a year ago. I haven't had any trouble with the tranny yet, but I'll keep it in mind.

 

If it blew up, id just swap the manual in.
it can be done.

 

Thanks, but no thanks. I like the automatic.

 

I know, we talked about this when Jan re tuned your car.