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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Has anyone used Ice products by turtle wax on their mini?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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I picked up a bottle of the spray wax two weeks ago to try it out. It gives a nice shine following the directions on the bottle but not as good as a "standard" wax. I'll use it again though.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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I use the turtle wax ICE liquid and I love it-it's the only wax I've used on my cooper since I've had it. It's super easy to apply, takes little time, and I actually purposely wax the plastic trim on the outside, because it gives those parts a nice shine as well. On the bottle, it specifically says that it's perfectly o.k. to use on vinyl and to apply in direct sunlight. Plus, one bottle will last a verrry long time. Highly recommended.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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I had used it on my Scion with 90,000 miles and it brought back a great shine on the black car. I'm glad you like it and will try it.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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I use the spray detailer. Works great and leaves no residue on the black bits.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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I have used the soap and liked it. I will pick up the wax and detailer.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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I have used the soap and liked it. I will pick up the wax and detailer.
I've use the detailer before, I wasn't crazy about it. It ends up leaving a bit of a dull finish to the paint.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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I used it once before I got hooked on Prima products. Easy on, looked pretty good, but did not last long at all.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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I used it once before I got hooked on Prima products. Easy on, looked pretty good, but did not last long at all.
This is true. Only lasted me about a week when I used it. The liquid clay bar is a novel idea but doesn't work the same as regular clay...so much so that they altered the kit from when they first came out with ICE products and the kit now contains an actual clay bar. Again, their best asset is the ease of use.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Prima products, where do I find them?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Good stuff.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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No dull finish here.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks!!!
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Good stuff.
Shoot me a PM or call me at my toll free ext. 11, and I'll be glad to assist you any way I can. I use Prima on a daily basis, professionally, as well as being a MINI enthusiast and owner of a MINI since 2003, unlike most others that sells Prima.
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Prima products, where do I find them?
Their liquid clay bar was a joke. It was a polish that had little clay bits in it so they could market it as a liquid clay bar. Any abrasive polish can be used to smooth paint, but it's still not effective as using clay bar first or in conjunction with a polishing process.

As for their detailing sprays not leaving any residue..I can't think of ANY detailing sprays that do..unless it's a spray wax. And as for Ice leaving a nice shine on the plastics..I prefer matte or semi matte over shiny Armor All looking plastic trim!

Originally Posted by NJ Mini
This is true. Only lasted me about a week when I used it. The liquid clay bar is a novel idea but doesn't work the same as regular clay...so much so that they altered the kit from when they first came out with ICE products and the kit now contains an actual clay bar. Again, their best asset is the ease of use.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Recommended Regimen

Octane Guy,

You seem to be one of the detailing experts on this site. I just checked out your web site and the other readers on the forum really seem to like your products.

Can you recommend a detailing regimen for me? I am not OCD about detailing, I just want to keep the car looking good (not car show good though). The car is about two years old and appears to have never had much done in terms of preservation other than what you would get at a drive through wash. The vinyl stripes and black plastic are starting to look a little dull. The car is currently covered with hard water spots from trying to wash it on my driveway on a hot day. I am reluctant to use products that will leave residue on the black plastic that I will have to spend time and money cleaning off.

Thanks for any recommendations you can provide.


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Thanks!!!


Shoot me a PM or call me at my toll free ext. 11, and I'll be glad to assist you any way I can. I use Prima on a daily basis, professionally, as well as being a MINI enthusiast and owner of a MINI since 2003, unlike most others that sells Prima.


Their liquid clay bar was a joke. It was a polish that had little clay bits in it so they could market it as a liquid clay bar. Any abrasive polish can be used to smooth paint, but it's still not effective as using clay bar first or in conjunction with a polishing process.

As for their detailing sprays not leaving any residue..I can't think of ANY detailing sprays that do..unless it's a spray wax. And as for Ice leaving a nice shine on the plastics..I prefer matte or semi matte over shiny Armor All looking plastic trim!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pepperstripes
Octane Guy,

You seem to be one of the detailing experts on this site. I just checked out your web site and the other readers on the forum really seem to like your products.

Can you recommend a detailing regimen for me? I am not OCD about detailing, I just want to keep the car looking good (not car show good though). The car is about two years old and appears to have never had much done in terms of preservation other than what you would get at a drive through wash. The vinyl stripes and black plastic are starting to look a little dull. The car is currently covered with hard water spots from trying to wash it on my driveway on a hot day. I am reluctant to use products that will leave residue on the black plastic that I will have to spend time and money cleaning off.

Thanks for any recommendations you can provide.
I know you're asking Octane Guy but I can give you my experience so far.

I never really gave much thought to detailing products before getting my MINI, but have since ordered Prima Hydro, Prima Hydro Wash, and Prima Hydro Seal along with Octane Guy's Black Wow. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to use any of this on my MINI yet (dang midlands tranny), but have used them on my girlfriends 2000 Ford Mustang.

I'll start off by saying I don't have any polisher machines or fancy towels or rags. I also suck at using traditional waxes. The Prima stuff was super easy to use. I used the Wash first, followed by the Seal. I did used a cotton t-shirt for the Seal. I haven't bothered to get any MF towels yet. Then I used the Hydro on top of the Seal. I followed all of that up with some Black Wow on the black plastic bits. All of these products go on clear, which means they don't leave waxy crap all over the black trim. And I think you can even use them on the windows if I remember right (not the Black Wow).

Her car came out looking the best it's looked in a while. Her paint isn't in the best condition but these products worked wonders. And it's been a week and it still looks good. And it didn't take as long as using a traditional wax.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Hexon,

I'll take advice from most anyone I haven't met. Sounds like you really like the Prima products. I might have to get me some of that.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Sorry for the delay...been swamped at the shop.

The first thing you want to do is clay your paint. I like the Meguiar's C2000 clay because it kneads easily, doesn't get overly sticky, removes contaminants quickly without marring the paint, and doesn't stain your fingers. Some manufacturers actually tell you to wear gloves to prevent that.

C2000 Clay
https://www.showcarsupplies.com/shop...p?id=116&bc=no

See my videos especially the Claybar 101 with OctaneGuy
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=...y#grid/uploads

After claying, you can apply a good wax. If you want to spend the least amount of time waxing, as in 15 to 30 minutes, use Prima Hydro or Prima Banana Gloss, or Prima's newest wax Hydro Seal. They are all easy to use hand applied waxes with decent durability and good looks. Hydro Seal is the most durable of the 3.

For a two year old car that hasn't been maintained well, a good polishing is usually desirable, and the best way is using a Porter Cable random orbital dual action polisher known simply as the PC. This will by far make the biggest improvement to your paint with a little practice but not everyone is ready to plop down $200 especially if they aren't serious about maintaining their paint.

I don't know what color is your MINI, but claying and waxing will make big improvements. Black Wow as another NAMer mentioned will restore your trim again and keep it that way far longer than other products and the BW bottle will last you for years. I like Prima Nero for the interior surfaces...top of the dash, interior door panels, plastic panels, seat backs, etc.. even the leatherette seats (if you got them).

I have all of these products in stock at my store at www.ShowCarSupplies.com and shipping is always recalculated so that it gives you the best deal at the lowest price...so if we can save you some time by sending Priority Mail in a Flat Rate box at the same time save you money over your chosen methods by FedEx Ground, we'll do that and refund the difference.

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Originally Posted by pepperstripes
Octane Guy,

You seem to be one of the detailing experts on this site. I just checked out your web site and the other readers on the forum really seem to like your products.

Can you recommend a detailing regimen for me? I am not OCD about detailing, I just want to keep the car looking good (not car show good though). The car is about two years old and appears to have never had much done in terms of preservation other than what you would get at a drive through wash. The vinyl stripes and black plastic are starting to look a little dull. The car is currently covered with hard water spots from trying to wash it on my driveway on a hot day. I am reluctant to use products that will leave residue on the black plastic that I will have to spend time and money cleaning off.

Thanks for any recommendations you can provide.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I just have a couple of questions...

What is the purpose of the clay bar treatment? I've seen them for sale, but I don't know what they accomplish. Is this to be done after washing or as a part of washing? What is the best way to remove tar and bugs and avoid hard water spots? The car is pepper white with a black top so the tar and bugs show up nicely on the white portion and the hard water shows well on the black top and vinyl stripes.

I have both electric and pneumatic sanders. Can these be used as buffers? Is the buffer to be used on the wax or some other product?

Is there a Prima product that is better at not leaving residue on the black trim? What happens if I get a little Black Wow on the paint?

There are also a few small spots that could use a little touch-up paint. Do you have any recommendations for this?

Thanks for the advice,

Erik
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pepperstripes
Thanks for the reply, I just have a couple of questions...

What is the purpose of the clay bar treatment? I've seen them for sale, but I don't know what they accomplish. Is this to be done after washing or as a part of washing? What is the best way to remove tar and bugs and avoid hard water spots? The car is pepper white with a black top so the tar and bugs show up nicely on the white portion and the hard water shows well on the black top and vinyl stripes.

I have both electric and pneumatic sanders. Can these be used as buffers? Is the buffer to be used on the wax or some other product?

Is there a Prima product that is better at not leaving residue on the black trim? What happens if I get a little Black Wow on the paint?

There are also a few small spots that could use a little touch-up paint. Do you have any recommendations for this?

Thanks for the advice,

Erik
I'm not an expert, so others can help if I get something wrong.
Clay is used on a washed car to "shear" off the micro contaminants that remain. Try washing the car, then put a thin plastic bag over your hand and run your hand over the surface. Those bumps are what clay can take off. Clay does nothing for scratches.

Bugs - can be taken off with a detailing spray. I soak the bug for a few minutes and then wipe it off with a microfibre towel. Try to minimize the rubbing as you can induce scratches. It is best to get bugs off as soon as possible. I used to use Bug and Tar remover, but I felt I had to re-wax the area after use.

Tar - the same process can be used to take off tar. Clay also takes off tar. It leaves a big black streak on the clay.

Water spots - I do my best to not get them. I have hard water and used to get them during the wash process. Now I pick early morning wash times with clouds if possible to minimize evaporation. I have also started to leave the soapy water on the car until the whole car is done. I try to work fast during the wash and dry process. If you get water spots, the clay bar can take some light stuff off, but you might need a PC to polish off heavier areas.

Sander - I don't know exactly what you have. But for a novice a PC is the only way to go. It can be used to apply wax/sealers, but it also is a great way to polish with various pad density and products.

I have not used the Hydro Seal product, but they say it does not stain the trim. Hydro is good too, as is Banana Gloss.

If you get Black Wow on the paint, just wipe it off.

Touch up - I have had luck with Dr Color Chip, and others like the Lanka process. Both are better than blobs.

Others with more experience.... please chime in.
 
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