CEL at 70 mph and misfire
CEL at 70 mph and misfire
I have the 2007 MCS with 41K miles. Today at about 70 mph on the freeway the CEL came on and the car started to misfire. I managed to get home but it still misfires and it seems to run on 3 cylinders and CEL stays on. The car has the K&N intake on it which I installed about 5k miles ago. I wondering what could be the problem.
I have to add that about a week ago the car when started in the morning wouldn't idle and it took me to rev it up to get the idle to stay about 3 times. This happened for about 4-5 times. I added Techron and ran full tank of gas with it. It seemed to clear the problem for a week until today.
Any opinions?
I know the symptoms of the HPFP should show up in the mornings. Is this more of a carbon build up issue?
Anyway your valuable opinions are appreciated.
I have to add that about a week ago the car when started in the morning wouldn't idle and it took me to rev it up to get the idle to stay about 3 times. This happened for about 4-5 times. I added Techron and ran full tank of gas with it. It seemed to clear the problem for a week until today.
Any opinions?
I know the symptoms of the HPFP should show up in the mornings. Is this more of a carbon build up issue?
Anyway your valuable opinions are appreciated.
Thanks for the good advice.
On top of each spark plug.
Last edited by slinger688; Aug 10, 2010 at 08:42 AM.
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broken piston
Today I got my car back. It turns out the piston #3 was broken. The valves and the head were fine and the dealer replaced the piston, cleaned carbon build up from the valves and the car runs just like it was new, nice, smooth and fast.
But my confidence is lost. The dealer doesn't know what caused the piston to break. All they said that they've seen it happen 3 times and it is very rare when it breaks.
Alexander Mini did very nice clean job. The car now has 41K miles and I am trying to decide weather to get extended 100K miles warranty or sell the car at 49K.
Any opinions?
But my confidence is lost. The dealer doesn't know what caused the piston to break. All they said that they've seen it happen 3 times and it is very rare when it breaks.
Alexander Mini did very nice clean job. The car now has 41K miles and I am trying to decide weather to get extended 100K miles warranty or sell the car at 49K.
Any opinions?
i trailered mine 3 hours to the dealership yesterday. A broken piston? I wonder what will be wrong with mine. how long did the repair take?
I say jump on the extended warranty while you can and enjoy the car.
I say jump on the extended warranty while you can and enjoy the car.
Sorry kopov didnt see you had 07. They have an individual coil pack for each cylinder, like a Toyota.
Wonder if the carbon build up started it ? IMO, Seafoam should be done on these 2nd Gen Turbos probably every 15K miles.....again just my opinion based upon what I have been seeing last 8 months with these cars. Mountainview MINI uses Seafoam for their customers and I would surmize as time goes on, you will see more and more dealerships following suit.
He also did not mention that his car was tuned...
Sorry kopov if you didn't want to mention it, but I feel that could have played a significant role here. It would be extremely rare for a piston to break with ~40k miles...
Sorry kopov if you didn't want to mention it, but I feel that could have played a significant role here. It would be extremely rare for a piston to break with ~40k miles...
It could have been a manufacturing defect in the piston, the dealer did say it was rare.
The only things I've ever seen that destroyed pistons is lack of lubrication, lean mixture and excessive detonation (pinging)
Dave
The only things I've ever seen that destroyed pistons is lack of lubrication, lean mixture and excessive detonation (pinging)
Dave
So you got your car into the shop around 6/6 or 6/7 and they replaced a piston and have it back to you in 1 week??? Pretty impressive...
Pretty rare to see a broken piston unless it were being subjected to the conditions Dave eluded to... Especially at highway speeds @ around 3000rpm...
Pretty rare to see a broken piston unless it were being subjected to the conditions Dave eluded to... Especially at highway speeds @ around 3000rpm...
So you got your car into the shop around 6/6 or 6/7 and they replaced a piston and have it back to you in 1 week??? Pretty impressive...
Pretty rare to see a broken piston unless it were being subjected to the conditions Dave eluded to... Especially at highway speeds @ around 3000rpm...
Pretty rare to see a broken piston unless it were being subjected to the conditions Dave eluded to... Especially at highway speeds @ around 3000rpm...
Is there any way I can determine if the car runs too lean? I want to know how I can prevent this from happenning again.
Best thing is to monitor the AFR's on a dyno graph, and you can get a good idea.
For everyday driving around, you can use a Scan Gauge to tell you the AFR's or you can buy a wideband AFR gauge. The AFR's that you told me over PM sounded safe, but without seeing the whole curve plotted, its hard to say.
Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you have the tune for, how many miles was it pinging for and how often, and what was your driving style like?
For everyday driving around, you can use a Scan Gauge to tell you the AFR's or you can buy a wideband AFR gauge. The AFR's that you told me over PM sounded safe, but without seeing the whole curve plotted, its hard to say.
Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you have the tune for, how many miles was it pinging for and how often, and what was your driving style like?
Best thing is to monitor the AFR's on a dyno graph, and you can get a good idea.
For everyday driving around, you can use a Scan Gauge to tell you the AFR's or you can buy a wideband AFR gauge. The AFR's that you told me over PM sounded safe, but without seeing the whole curve plotted, its hard to say.
Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you have the tune for, how many miles was it pinging for and how often, and what was your driving style like?
For everyday driving around, you can use a Scan Gauge to tell you the AFR's or you can buy a wideband AFR gauge. The AFR's that you told me over PM sounded safe, but without seeing the whole curve plotted, its hard to say.
Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you have the tune for, how many miles was it pinging for and how often, and what was your driving style like?
I just flatbedded my 07 MCSa with 63k to the dealer and learned today that she has a broken piston #3. Fortunately I DID get the extended warranty and hopefully they will take care of it. They are sending an adjuster out tomorrow...
I've had the pinging for probably 5k as well. Misfire codes apeared probably 2k ago.
kopov - did you every develop any theories as to what happened?
I've had the pinging for probably 5k as well. Misfire codes apeared probably 2k ago.
kopov - did you every develop any theories as to what happened?
I just flatbedded my 07 MCSa with 63k to the dealer and learned today that she has a broken piston #3. Fortunately I DID get the extended warranty and hopefully they will take care of it. They are sending an adjuster out tomorrow...
I've had the pinging for probably 5k as well. Misfire codes apeared probably 2k ago.
kopov - did you every develop any theories as to what happened?
I've had the pinging for probably 5k as well. Misfire codes apeared probably 2k ago.
kopov - did you every develop any theories as to what happened?
The high pressure pump has been replaced about 1k miles ago and all is good for now, at least there is no more detonation.
I hope the dealer will replace the piston at no charge since you still have warranty.
You mean fast-gas regular will do that!
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt(now there's an idea), got the lecture when she was just a babe (76 not good enough)... they can't use that one again.
Hmmm maybe the SA's could just wear the shirt... save time and explaination... and now for the graphic...
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt(now there's an idea), got the lecture when she was just a babe (76 not good enough)... they can't use that one again.
Hmmm maybe the SA's could just wear the shirt... save time and explaination... and now for the graphic...
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it is fully covered by warranty though! I cant wait to get back to motoring!!
