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Old 03-24-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Take note Chows - he mocked the door sills.

Not only is he mocking the sills, he's laughing at the pedigree......


I can't believe any true crap loving American didnt get the door sills. They are part of the "image".

As to no documentation ... that means no Providence ergo ... Goodbye Barret-Jackson for you
 
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... that means no Providence ergo ...
I think you mean Provenance.... there won't be any Providence for us in any event.
 
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:45 AM
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I think you mean Provenance.... there won't be any Providence for us in any event.
Ah yes. Provenance ... Providence (hmm, thata city in RI)

Duh, must have been something in the air.
 
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Team Requirements?

Exactly how much crap do you need to get on the Team? Is Team membership reserved for only those who have the full kit?

I only have one little piece of crap, the JCW Intake. It certainly is craptastic.

I also see that you can now get the JCW exhaust as a stand alone item. Any thoughts on that?
 
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Exactly how much crap do you need to get on the Team? Is Team membership reserved for only those who have the full kit?


I also see that you can now get the JCW exhaust as a stand alone item. Any thoughts on that?
Hmm, somebody already tried that. $400 vs $6200. What you think. CRAP is CRAP. I think the current thinking is Crap, second class

JCW exhaust is very nice. Dyno tests done on MINI2 show only 2hp loss from a Borla Sport. Very quiet, solidly built, does exactly what Michael Cooper wanted to do.
 
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Originally Posted by chows4us
JCW exhaust is very nice. Dyno tests done on MINI2 show only 2hp loss from a Borla Sport. Very quiet, solidly built, does exactly what Michael Cooper wanted to do.
And it goes "pop pop pop"!

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[quote=chows4us]Hmm, somebody already tried that. $400 vs $6200. What you think. CRAP is CRAP. I think the current thinking is Crap, second class

Paid $250 at Helix. That's Real Cheap Crap Second Class to you.
 
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Is the JCW package truly Craptastic?

Craptastic or not,i put on and takeoff and then some what ever i like.
 
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Originally Posted by chows4us


I can't believe any true crap loving American didnt get the door sills. They are part of the "image".
We got the sills - not the illuminated ones just the JCW's...

We're also hoping to downgrade to the JCW suspension bits -

I'm a crap-o-holic and need help!:impatient
 
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Originally Posted by pgifford
And it goes "pop pop pop"!

Paul
Yeah, that's the pooper S farting
 
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Originally Posted by chows4us


I can't believe any true crap loving American didnt get the door sills. They are part of the "image".
Besides the kit , I need to get the sills too?
 
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Besides the kit , I need to get the sills too?
no no .... that was hyperbole
 
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Hi, my name is John and I have a problem . . . I need the JCW checkered flag floor mats . . . Badly
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle_John
Hi, my name is John and I have a problem . . . I need the JCW checkered flag floor mats . . . Badly
Here you go ....

 
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I know . . . Mama's car needs new shoes . . .
 
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I LOVE MY CRAPTASTIC LITTLE CAR.
THE MORE CRAP THE BETTER
WHEN IS THE NEXT 12 STEP MEETING?
 
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Originally Posted by MINICHEF
I LOVE MY CRAPTASTIC LITTLE CAR.
THE MORE CRAP THE BETTER
WHEN IS THE NEXT 12 STEP MEETING?
Meetings? We don't need no stinking meetings. When you GOT CRAP, you know you GOT CRAP and don't need no stinking support group
 
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Did I mention . . . Hello, My name is John and I have a problem . . . Those door sills sure do look good.
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle_John
Did I mention . . . Hello, My name is John and I have a problem . . . Those door sills sure do look good.
See post #89. However, I got to say, there is no way I'm dropping hundred more on "illuminated door sills" which go beyond bling into superbling land
 
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Originally Posted by chows4us
See post #89. However, I got to say, there is no way I'm dropping hundred more on "illuminated door sills" which go beyond bling into superbling land
Shhh... don't tell anyone... I just bought them today. They're sitting at my house, and will be installed on my next service visit (prior to MOTD). I don't know what I'll do with the non-illuminated ones now - maybe turn them into house ornaments.

From the day I ordered my car, and I knew illuminated sills existed, I wanted illuminated JCW ones - but they were only available in the non-JCW designs, so I bought the non-illuminated JCW ones instead. Now that the illuminated JCW ones ARE available, I just had to fix it!
 
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. Now that the illuminated JCW ones ARE available, I just had to fix it!
Ahh cmon ... you just want more CRAP than anyone else
 
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Originally Posted by Edge
Now that the illuminated JCW ones ARE available, I just had to fix it!
Before you throw the old ones out . . . . now what could you do with them????? . . .
 
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I need help... 10 steps, 12 steps, even 14 steps if it will help. My name is Dread Pirate Tim and I have a problem. I started this thread trying to put some numbers to the craptastic crap that John Pooper, I mean Cooper, puts out. And that's where my problem started...

I began to check out pulleys and exhausts and headers and all kinds of other crap from OTHER suppliers. I looked at the M7 carbon splitter. I looked at Sparco Milano Prestige seats in place of the real JCW ones (I know, if I would just suck up the shipping and forgo the airbags I could have them). I have looked at H sport and M7 springs to lower my car. I don't know if a Milltek exhaust or a Borla exhaust would be better. What about those damn Denso plugs? Oh so many questions...

And after a couple weeks Mrs. Dread finally kicked my a$$. Dammit. She wants a fast, smooth, reliable car. Something about hauling the little Dreads around. Especially if I replace the runflats and there's no spare. Unless I promise to answer my cell phone NO MATTER WHAT. Well that's not exactly realistic...

So here's what I -- I mean WE -- have come up with. Please help.
- Standard MCS without Sport package to avoid the Xenons (20 lbs, right?)
- DSC and LSD (at least until the clutch goes and we put in a Quaife)
- Cold weather, Leather, f/r fogs, Chrono pkg (gotta have the speedo in the center so don't get all fanatical on us), anthracite headliner and H/K stereo
- Add-on JCW with air intake and suspension
- JCW strut brace, just because. It might even help minimize mushrooming.
- ASA AR1 17x7 with Goodyears
- TCE Brakes f/r
- WMS extreme rear sway bar

The goal is to go as much as possible with JCW crap for tractability, drivability and warrantability (are those really words?). But to have more stopping power than a Carrera or a Boxster. We don't need all-out canyon cruising power, but we want to stop when we want to stop -- with no apologies and no second guessing.

We thought about coil overs... too hard core plus we will never have the car balanced for more than 5 minutes at a time. We don't need real track stuff, so we might get more with a little lighter wheels or stickier rubber but this should do the trick. And the leather is actually easier to clean than the vinyl when the sippy cups spill and the gold fish get ground into the piping. And it's more comfortable on those wonderful date nights when Mrs. Dread actually wears a skirt...

Did I mention color? Guess not... check out the signature.

Truly, thanks for your help... please try to keep it constructive, but it's all good.
 
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Truly, thanks for your help... please try to keep it constructive, but it's all good.
Trying to be constructive here and serious ... especially where money is concerned

Well FIRST, you need one of these in CF

a mere $150 from Porsche

Now ...

avoid the Xenons

Mistake ... Once have have those Xenons you will NEVER go back

Cold weather

Fluff. My wife is always cold and could care less about heated seats because you got to many layers of clothes on in the winter anyway. Luxary $$

Chrono pkg

More fluff ... If you have the OBC, you got a digital speedo in fron of you ... more luxary $$ wasted

JCW strut brace

Bling ... totally unnecessary and not going to stop mushrooming. Go over to MINI 2 and see what Roland says about them.

WMS extreme rear sway bar

Can't say anything about that but maybe H-Sport is just as good ... lighter since its hollow.

to have more stopping power than a Carrera or a Boxster.

Your not serious are you? Porsche builds their stock brakes to pull down four times the power of what the engine can put out. New ones have the PCCB ceramic option ($16K aftermarket kit ... $8K if you buy OEM). NEVER fade. I seriously doubt you will come close in this area
Well, you asked for serious answers. I'd take the $$ thrown into the luxaries and save it or buy the real TC kit. HK? also do you really need that?

I can tell you this ... She wants a fast, smooth, reliable car. Something about hauling the little Dreads around.
I know its a cliche but all the JCW parts are meant to work together including the brakes. Your not going to track the car, you don't need any other aftermarket brakes.

Did I mention color? Guess not... check out the signature

"MINIs only come in one color CR/W ... all the rest are mistakes"
(Anon.)
 
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Just a little penny's worth of thought on the Porsche stopping power: I have the biggest BBK TCE makes and that sucker is scary until hot! Don't get me wrong, I love the brakes, but until they are hot, they brake for *****--something that's more likely on the street.
If you don't get the JCW brakes, at least get stainless braided brake lines, which give about 90% of the BBK feel anyway. For anything short of track days, and even then, BBKs are pure bragging rights at local club meetings. Save your money for the coilovers....
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