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Old Oct 10, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Gp3 looks so much better with all that "lipsick" removed

I saw this on Mini Works FB page.

My opionion... it looks so much better with all that lipstick removed... I'd put a std JCW spoiler on the rear, and pull the funky fender "wings/skirts" and save them for resale... Handsome car below ! Nice work Mini-Works !!































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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 04:14 PM
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Batman, your Mini is ready. I'm not big on the murdered out look, but gotta admit that's pretty sick!
 
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Old Oct 17, 2020 | 10:24 PM
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Keep in mind that a wrap saves the original surface, the taste is personal and the chosen basic color very nice, take your time for the next!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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That wrap looks great. Now all it needs is some flames on the sides and on the hood. That'll fix it up good!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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Link to my longer post about the GP3 wheels and some lessons learned:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...y-mistake.html

 
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Old Oct 24, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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That sucks to have damaged a wheel. It is also neat you found an after market wheel that fits the GP. Maybe post a link in this thread to that wheel? Track wheels get damaged and having an aftermarket source is good. I have had a heck of a time finding wheels for may JCW.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
Maybe post a link in this thread to that wheel? Track wheels get damaged and having an aftermarket source is good. I have had a heck of a time finding wheels for may JCW.
Yeah, all those details are in the new post that I linked to.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2020 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidPinAZ
Link to my longer post about the GP3 wheels and some lessons learned:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...y-mistake.html
I see you changed to a different wall height, as suggested :-) Take the next step and install 235mm, the 3mm spacers are not hurting, and wait for a real suspension.
It's like changing the odd tire size of an ordinary JCW from 205mm to 215mm.





 

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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 07:31 AM
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https://mbdesign.shop/de/felgen/mf1-...=23609%7C17917
 
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Old Oct 26, 2020 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan
Nice...

But do they have 18”? Or did I miss them?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 01:55 PM
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Bilstein upgrade for the GP3:



And a fun review of the GP vs the Renault:


on a wet track (what do you want, it is the UK... )
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 08:35 AM
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Thanks for the post, looks exciting.
 
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That Bilstein Club Sport kit appears to be the same as the one for the Gen 3 JCW. That I could find, Bilstein does not list a separate kit for the GP. It is, however, a $3250 upgrade.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
That Bilstein Club Sport kit appears to be the same as the one for the Gen 3 JCW. That I could find, Bilstein does not list a separate kit for the GP. It is, however, a $3250 upgrade.
I watched a video of the installation of the Bilstein shocks on the GP3, and they are impressive, but for that kind of money I will pass and use the JCW for street duty, and save the GP for events like the MOTD, etc., and occasional track duty. We may head to South Carolina after the MOTD and track it.
 
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The Bilsteins also lower the car more that I would want, especially looking at roll centers and the forward rake they make. Even at their max height the front is dropped ~1.2” which is getting into the territory of putting the roll center below ground level or close to it (another person’s estimate). And the forward rake pushes the handling towards being oversteer. The JCW Pro coilovers are much more modest in their drop and can be set for a stock rake. It would have been nice if they were adjustable, though.

So, no, not my cup of tea either.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 03:17 PM
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Good video, I love my GP3, and it is a handful, but that is part of the fun. It is a little beastie that will bite you if you aren't ready for it! It is raw and fast, and really way too much fun to be street legal, but it is and that is wonderful! Thanks for the link.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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Before the communist take over, I decided to buy my wife a black GR, the car is insane and arrives in MAY.

The GP3 left his first stage, and the following was done:




Next stage

Brakes, Wheels, Aero floor & Diffuser.
Original seats weights 20 kg, not bad, get replaced with Recaro Poles 11Kg

The underneath rear brace, weight 13 kgs !!!!
 

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Originally Posted by TheGeekGuy
For our next road test, lets compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the Yaris in an off road test and then bash the he** out of the Yaris for being so incompetent off road. Or, better yet, take the Yaris, as-is (320 TW tires and all) and compare it to the GP3 out on the track. I’m sure those tires will stand up really well to a set of 200TW track tires.

Switch out the GP3 for a Clubman JCW and then see how the Yaris stands up...
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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The GP3 is what it is, a purpose track built car that can be safely driven on public roads. Is it perfect? No, but is it so flawed that it is not safe to drive on public roads? The answer is a resounding NO! I have put mine away for the winter as I don't drive any of my performance toys in the winter and that is fine as my F65 JCW has all season tires on it and it is fun to drive in all seasons, and does fairly well in snow. We don't have any great tracks like the Nuburgring in the U. S. and we most likely never will due to the litigious nature of our society. I have almost 2,000 miles on my GP3 and they have all been on public roads and it has never bitten me. I plant to take it to Tennessee and North Carolina next year and drive those wonderful roads. The Tail of the Dragon, the Devil's Triangle, and the myriad number of marvelous twisty roads that area is blessed with. The are numerous wrecks on these roads every year and almost all of them are due to driver error not the vehicle. Drive within your limits, and don't blame the car for being flawed, no car is perfect and neither are we, but we can have great fun driving these little beasts if we drive within our personal limits.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 09:18 AM
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My understanding from watching various YoutTube and other videos is if you dial out some of the camber on the front wheels (less track setting) it does remove some of the "wheel ******" due to torque steer. That will of course compromise track handling, but if you spend $5000 Ohlins/Bilstein coil-overs then you can change that on the fly.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
For our next road test, lets compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the Yaris in an off road test and then bash the he** out of the Yaris for being so incompetent off road. Or, better yet, take the Yaris, as-is (320 TW tires and all) and compare it to the GP3 out on the track. I’m sure those tires will stand up really well to a set of 200TW track tires.

Switch out the GP3 for a Clubman JCW and then see how the Yaris stands up...
For sure

 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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Look what I found at Mini of Boston- they claim to have 2 or 3 of these. IMO Toyota's are fantastic vehicles but Mini's are cuter

 
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Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan
For sure
Is that stock?



Look at the Freakin’ camber on the rear wheels...
 
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