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Gp3 looks so much better with all that "lipsick" removed
I saw this on Mini Works FB page.
My opionion... it looks so much better with all that lipstick removed... I'd put a std JCW spoiler on the rear, and pull the funky fender "wings/skirts" and save them for resale... Handsome car below ! Nice work Mini-Works !!
That sucks to have damaged a wheel. It is also neat you found an after market wheel that fits the GP. Maybe post a link in this thread to that wheel? Track wheels get damaged and having an aftermarket source is good. I have had a heck of a time finding wheels for may JCW.
Maybe post a link in this thread to that wheel? Track wheels get damaged and having an aftermarket source is good. I have had a heck of a time finding wheels for may JCW.
Yeah, all those details are in the new post that I linked to.
I see you changed to a different wall height, as suggested :-) Take the next step and install 235mm, the 3mm spacers are not hurting, and wait for a real suspension.
It's like changing the odd tire size of an ordinary JCW from 205mm to 215mm.
Last edited by Clutch Wotan; Oct 24, 2020 at 11:25 PM.
That Bilstein Club Sport kit appears to be the same as the one for the Gen 3 JCW. That I could find, Bilstein does not list a separate kit for the GP. It is, however, a $3250 upgrade.
That Bilstein Club Sport kit appears to be the same as the one for the Gen 3 JCW. That I could find, Bilstein does not list a separate kit for the GP. It is, however, a $3250 upgrade.
I watched a video of the installation of the Bilstein shocks on the GP3, and they are impressive, but for that kind of money I will pass and use the JCW for street duty, and save the GP for events like the MOTD, etc., and occasional track duty. We may head to South Carolina after the MOTD and track it.
The Bilsteins also lower the car more that I would want, especially looking at roll centers and the forward rake they make. Even at their max height the front is dropped ~1.2” which is getting into the territory of putting the roll center below ground level or close to it (another person’s estimate). And the forward rake pushes the handling towards being oversteer. The JCW Pro coilovers are much more modest in their drop and can be set for a stock rake. It would have been nice if they were adjustable, though.
Good video, I love my GP3, and it is a handful, but that is part of the fun. It is a little beastie that will bite you if you aren't ready for it! It is raw and fast, and really way too much fun to be street legal, but it is and that is wonderful! Thanks for the link.
For our next road test, lets compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the Yaris in an off road test and then bash the he** out of the Yaris for being so incompetent off road. Or, better yet, take the Yaris, as-is (320 TW tires and all) and compare it to the GP3 out on the track. I’m sure those tires will stand up really well to a set of 200TW track tires.
Switch out the GP3 for a Clubman JCW and then see how the Yaris stands up...
The GP3 is what it is, a purpose track built car that can be safely driven on public roads. Is it perfect? No, but is it so flawed that it is not safe to drive on public roads? The answer is a resounding NO! I have put mine away for the winter as I don't drive any of my performance toys in the winter and that is fine as my F65 JCW has all season tires on it and it is fun to drive in all seasons, and does fairly well in snow. We don't have any great tracks like the Nuburgring in the U. S. and we most likely never will due to the litigious nature of our society. I have almost 2,000 miles on my GP3 and they have all been on public roads and it has never bitten me. I plant to take it to Tennessee and North Carolina next year and drive those wonderful roads. The Tail of the Dragon, the Devil's Triangle, and the myriad number of marvelous twisty roads that area is blessed with. The are numerous wrecks on these roads every year and almost all of them are due to driver error not the vehicle. Drive within your limits, and don't blame the car for being flawed, no car is perfect and neither are we, but we can have great fun driving these little beasts if we drive within our personal limits.
My understanding from watching various YoutTube and other videos is if you dial out some of the camber on the front wheels (less track setting) it does remove some of the "wheel ******" due to torque steer. That will of course compromise track handling, but if you spend $5000 Ohlins/Bilstein coil-overs then you can change that on the fly.
For our next road test, lets compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the Yaris in an off road test and then bash the he** out of the Yaris for being so incompetent off road. Or, better yet, take the Yaris, as-is (320 TW tires and all) and compare it to the GP3 out on the track. I’m sure those tires will stand up really well to a set of 200TW track tires.
Switch out the GP3 for a Clubman JCW and then see how the Yaris stands up...