The full 2005 John Cooper Works kit retails for $4,650.00 plus an estimated 10 hours of labor for installation.
Then why does my dealer want so much.
Anyone have a dealer in Florida or the South that will want less?

 

probably because people are crazy enough to pay it?

 

How much is sales tax?

What is the dealer's hourly labor rate?

 

The install hours seem low to me. They were more like 12 or 15 when I had mine installed. What does a labor hour run?? $80 min. so 4650 + 800 = 5450 + sales tax (6%?) = 5777 yup they seem to be overcharging my about 1000 bux.

I paid about the same for my JCW kit last year? Where are you looking to get it installed? Braman?? if so turn and run away... I have an A-6 and my Mini from them and while its hard to screw up a new car they have been a total cluster**** with my A-6. It goes back in EVERY month for mostly the same coolent problem. A 10 y/o could service my car better.

 

I would never pay $6700 for the install. NEVER! Go and have it done somewhere else. Look up on MiniUSA for dealerships and then give them calls, working nearest where you live and working your way out. I am having mine installed for $5750.

 

Hey I only paid 5200.00

 

The Official Installation Instructions state that "the installlation time of approx. 9 hours can vary depending on the condition and equipment of the vehicle".


Oh to find dealer labor at $80 per hour ... it's $125-155 here in the SF Bay Area

 

Out here in Mass it's about $90/hr, but you can go to an aftermarket shop and get it for about $65/hr, of course that doesn't cover the warranty though

 

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Thanks guys I really don't have an idea about the labour $ rate.
I won't go to Braiman in Miami.
Maybe the good advise is either call other dealerships re. $ price and take a two day vacation some where in the South U.S. or Mod my S with some of the great info offered on NAM.
There are divergent opinoions on what pulley/software/intake
/injectors to use. And what will be the outcome after install.
Let me see if I understand. Please point me in the correct direction. and I may not have my numbers right.
If I purchase a JCW kit it will give me 210 hp - or app 180 whp

If I install a 15% or 17% pulley/ cold air intake/some generic software upgrade I will get:????????????

Please fill in_______HP_____________WHP___________

I would be very :smile: if I could find a out of the box alternative to the JCW that is avaible and not to extreme. (No major part replacement)

 

Curious, where is it $155 at? I know EB is $135 and $150 in SF.

 

The JCW kit costs about the same all over the country for the parts but the labor time and labor rate does vary. 9 or 10 hours would be really quick to do the install as it ends up being closer to the 12 to 14+ hours mentioned. This adds to the cost if you really do get charged for the true time spent. For most people the installed JCW kit costs about $5500 total. If you can get it done for less then great.

If you want the same kind of power gains then the reduction pulley in 15% to 19%, intake and cat-back exhaust upgrades will get you the Lion's share of added power. Maybe in the range of 190 HP and 170 WHP as an estimate but it depends on which MCS is being upgraded and with which parts. The JCW estimate of 210 HP is inflated and will often dyno for less. But you do get the warranty with the JCW kit install.

In my area the labor rate is $100 per hour and it takes about 12 hours to install the JCW kit. Rough cost is about $5800 to $6000. Each dealer sets a price. They don't really make much of a profit charging those rates just because it does take quite a bit of time to do the install at the dealership. Only authorized MINI dealerships can do the install and keep the warranty. However at $6700 they'd be making a profit. Shop around.

 

I thought SF was $155 ... but I could be wrong

 

Are they $155? Wow..

 

$155 an hour? I'm in the wrong field!
(I could have saved many years of tuition and not gone into medicine)
Yeah, $100 per hour to the dealership and $55 per hour to the mechanic.

Honest shops like Steve's, Helix13 or Webb motorsports are a dying breed. Of course they don't have to pay high rent like in San Francisco but heck

Somehow I wonder how long it will be before we see $200 per hour at our dealerships. I guess then I'd feel like I'm driving a Ferrari or something exotic

Or maybe by then I'd move closer to my nearest friendly MINI tuner

 

The rent isn't that high in S.F., especially where BMW of SF is located at in the south of market district of S.F.

All I have to say is that if they bill out at $155 an hour the dealership better get it right the first time.

Off topic, but has anyone used bay bridge motors yet?

 

Maybe in the range of 190 HP and 170 WHP..... That is very acceptable:smile:
So what software do I use in coodination with !7% pulley/intake and cat-back exaust?????????????

 

A 15% pulley, intake, exhaust and software will kill a JCW. So will a 19% pulley and exhaust. The former should only cost $1650 installed. A 19% pulley and exhaust should only cost around $1100 installed. In either case, you'll have more torque than a JCW so you'll accelerate faster and feel it lower in the gears and even more in your daily driving. The only thing the JCW gives you is full warranty coverage but I went through the 50k mile warranty with both 15% and 19% pullies and had well over a dozen parts still replaced under warranty. Just find a mod friendly dealer. Or at least not a mod-hater dealer.

 

I understand...:smile:

greatgroNo ECU software on a 19% pulley? I thought it might run a little lean in the upper 6000 rpm range. And if not aren't there any software upgrades that you would recommend for a 17%/19% pulley to add HP and make the extra mods work more efficient in the S?

 

Do you know what it costs to produce a CD? Yeah, a couple of dollars, if that. Do you know what you pay when you go to a store? $15? It's called profit.

At my dealership, our cost is $5800. Charging $6500 is only about 13% profit margine. Thats nothing compared to everything else you buy. Clothing, food, and music! I don't know about you, but I would enjoy a JCW kit much more than a CD I would get sick of within a week.

 

From what I read the S runs real rich so a ecu mod to lean it out is how it will make more power. European Car Magazine has a project mini..

http://www.europeancarweb.com/projec..._project_mini/
http://www.europeancarweb.com/projectcars/0401ec_mini/

 

Hmmmm..I saw a dealership selling a JCW kit on ebay for $3900 so if that's the cost then labor and overhead is $1900.00? Are you sure that $5800 doesn't include a core charge?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V

 

I had a friend of mine get his installed at South MINI, if I remember correctly he only paid $5,400.00 with installation. They had quoted him 12hrs, I hope this helps.



Danny

 

miniquick MiniChristina Remember they are trying to charge $6700.
My cost is $4650.00 at the parts counter to me, so the dealership bought it for an estimated 17-$20% discount or app. $3720-$4000. Therir margin + core discount and returns could be over 20% at the least $1500 not counting Labor.

 

It is not a 13% profit margin, but a 13% price gouge. They are already receiving profit from both the kit and the install charges. It does not cost the dealership in real money $100 to work on your car. There is profit built into it. In most cases profit is half of what the item is sold for. Don't get me wrong, this isn't pure profit, since most of the profit goes into costs incurred by the dealership.