Potential new buyer low mileage 2004 Cooper Works Package
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Potential new buyer low mileage 2004 Cooper Works Package
I have the opportunity to get a 2004 super low mileage JCW, in grey, with white roof with 17k miles on the clock. Looks to be 100% stock except the JCW airbox that has been added and a Momo shifter. Car is in immaculate shape with almost no flaws.
What are these cars worth with such low milage, we settled on very low teens, I feel like given the car's overall shape this is a decent deal.
What are these cars worth with such low milage, we settled on very low teens, I feel like given the car's overall shape this is a decent deal.
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Thank you, thats exactly where we're at. I feel OK with that price, and included in that are brand new Michelin tires and a set of new in the box fog lights and a Momo shifter. Besides, I've been wanting one of these for the last 5 years or so. Drove one a while back and loved it.
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I would not pay $12k for the car regardless of what options it has. Yes low miles are nice but the car is still 13 years old, does not have the 380 injectors nor does it have LSD. KBB has the car at $8k. There is a thread in the JCW section about a guy that paid 17k for an 06 JCW with a 3 year aftermarket warranty but ended up selling it for $12.5k. That car had like 12,000 miles on it with just about every option you could get.
We all like to think how much our cars are worth but when we go to sell them, we are not the one buying them. For me, I would walk away at anything above $10k.
We all like to think how much our cars are worth but when we go to sell them, we are not the one buying them. For me, I would walk away at anything above $10k.
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I would not pay $12k for the car regardless of what options it has. Yes low miles are nice but the car is still 13 years old, does not have the 380 injectors nor does it have LSD. KBB has the car at $8k. There is a thread in the JCW section about a guy that paid 17k for an 06 JCW with a 3 year aftermarket warranty but ended up selling it for $12.5k. That car had like 12,000 miles on it with just about every option you could get.
We all like to think how much our cars are worth but when we go to sell them, we are not the one buying them. For me, I would walk away at anything above $10k.
We all like to think how much our cars are worth but when we go to sell them, we are not the one buying them. For me, I would walk away at anything above $10k.
I've always been OK with paying extra for a lower mileage clean car, I feel that if you take care of the car it might work out in the end when you sell it. I bought an e55 AMG with 26k miles and recently sold an e36 m3 with 60k miles. In both instances cars were super clean and went for higher prices.
Thanks for the response though, this forum seems to be knowledgeable and quite friendly, I like that!
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Here in SoCal, $8-10k is jus enough to buy a bucket for a college student. Lots of guys on NAM have owned higher end cars with more horsepower but talk about how the r53 is the most fun car to drive. A few bucks more to get a low mileage r53 which is a rare find seems to be worth it.
I've got an 05 JCW with no sunroof and LSD with 17K miles on it and I wouldn't sell it for 10k. I've listed it on craigslist because the wife says I've got too many cars in the stable. If it doesn't sell at the premium I'm asking for, I'm gonna follow in r53coop's footsteps and give it an RMW makeover. $12K seems like a good deal for a rare find.
I've got an 05 JCW with no sunroof and LSD with 17K miles on it and I wouldn't sell it for 10k. I've listed it on craigslist because the wife says I've got too many cars in the stable. If it doesn't sell at the premium I'm asking for, I'm gonna follow in r53coop's footsteps and give it an RMW makeover. $12K seems like a good deal for a rare find.
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Here in SoCal, $8-10k is jus enough to buy a bucket for a college student. Lots of guys on NAM have owned higher end cars with more horsepower but talk about how the r53 is the most fun car to drive. A few bucks more to get a low mileage r53 which is a rare find seems to be worth it.
I've got an 05 JCW with no sunroof and LSD with 17K miles on it and I wouldn't sell it for 10k. I've listed it on craigslist because the wife says I've got too many cars in the stable. If it doesn't sell at the premium I'm asking for, I'm gonna follow in r53coop's footsteps and give it an RMW makeover. $12K seems like a good deal for a rare find.
I've got an 05 JCW with no sunroof and LSD with 17K miles on it and I wouldn't sell it for 10k. I've listed it on craigslist because the wife says I've got too many cars in the stable. If it doesn't sell at the premium I'm asking for, I'm gonna follow in r53coop's footsteps and give it an RMW makeover. $12K seems like a good deal for a rare find.
I got a 370Z and an e55 but the Mini was super fun to drive, looking forward to getting it! I am more of a stock guy but would add JCW OEM stuff to it to keep its originality.
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I have the opportunity to get a 2004 super low mileage JCW, in grey, with white roof with 17k miles on the clock. Looks to be 100% stock except the JCW airbox that has been added and a Momo shifter. Car is in immaculate shape with almost no flaws.
What are these cars worth with such low milage, we settled on very low teens, I feel like given the car's overall shape this is a decent deal.
What are these cars worth with such low milage, we settled on very low teens, I feel like given the car's overall shape this is a decent deal.
I don't think I would consider the JCW airbox not stock compared to the original JCW kit since all JCW's were dealer/port add-ons prior to 2006. Also, there's a JCW upgrade kit for the 200HP JCW which includes the airbox, 380cc injectors, and the 210HP tune. It's possible the car you're looking at has this since the airbox is there. If you look under the intercooler you can see the injectors. The stock injectors are tan and the 380's are light blue. Not sure how you could verify the tune, though.
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Thank you all for the suggestions, I appreciate it! I ended up buying it today, love the car so far. I thought about holding for an '05 or '06, but in the end I liked what this car has - seems super clean and an owner that seemed to have truly cared for the car, plus the car seems to be non abused and with super low miles, which seems to be quite rare. It has very very flaws and I am a perfectionist - a few surface scratches that I think I can buff out, a dent that PDR will most likely remove and some scratches on the front lower lip.
I test drove a 2006 with the JCW package and LSD and I honestly could not tell the difference, is that something that one would only notice on the track? I have an E55 AMG and a 370z, so the mini will share duties with those 2 cars, which are both fast and fun in their own way.
900exdriver - out of curiosity how many miles on your car and did it go for low teens as well? Are you missing the car? These cars seem to be so unique and owners seem to truly love them. I have no idea how one would NOT put miles on these, I already offered to go the groceries store twice tonight.
I test drove a 2006 with the JCW package and LSD and I honestly could not tell the difference, is that something that one would only notice on the track? I have an E55 AMG and a 370z, so the mini will share duties with those 2 cars, which are both fast and fun in their own way.
900exdriver - out of curiosity how many miles on your car and did it go for low teens as well? Are you missing the car? These cars seem to be so unique and owners seem to truly love them. I have no idea how one would NOT put miles on these, I already offered to go the groceries store twice tonight.
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900exdriver - out of curiosity how many miles on your car and did it go for low teens as well? Are you missing the car? These cars seem to be so unique and owners seem to truly love them. I have no idea how one would NOT put miles on these, I already offered to go the groceries store twice tonight.
I actually decided to keep it. It's not very practical with 3 little ones but we make it work. I'm hoping to hold onto this for a while as it has been such exciting car to drive. I picked it up with 38k (low miles in my mind) and just ticked over 41k. For the most part I wouldn't tell the difference either if the car had the LSD or not as I drive like a grandma. However, with it being fwd it's handy to have when you need it.
Congrats on your purchase. You will enjoy the MINI culture as they are a fun bunch.
#13
It may have the 380 Injectors. He indicated in first post that it was equipped with the JCW air box.....so "Sound Kit" may have been installed.
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I will certainly get some pics up, its been raining badly here in Portland OR, nothing new though. I had to see his car in his garage to be able to properly inspect the exterior.
#16
The JCW airbox has a vacuum controlled flap which opens to the vent under the windshield wiper to the let more cold air in at 4,500 RPM's. This was done mostly for noise regulations in the UK. Many people disconnect and remove or prop open the flap to allow cold air access all the time, and to increase the whine of the supercharger.
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Here's some info on the airbox and a link to the install instructions.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/...ld-air-intake/
http://motoringfile.com/files/JCWUPGRADE.pdf
http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/...ld-air-intake/
http://motoringfile.com/files/JCWUPGRADE.pdf
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Here's some info on the airbox and a link to the install instructions.
http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/...ld-air-intake/
http://motoringfile.com/files/JCWUPGRADE.pdf
http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/...ld-air-intake/
http://motoringfile.com/files/JCWUPGRADE.pdf
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You have a real gem there, drive it in the best of health. Make sure that the robber parts are not dry rotted from age. In April of 2005 I bought my 2005 R 52S from someone in Key Largo, FL. The car had sat in his garage for 10 years and only had 3,648 miles. Some of the foam rubber seals along with the tires needed replaced immediately and the front motor mgt blew at about 14,000 miles
#23
I checked, no 380 injectors, sadly. He had the Airbox installed at the dealership later down the road after the car was bought. The airbox plug was disconnected, the PO was explaining to me something about why it was not connected, I will have to do some research on that. It was a last minute thing he mentioned when I noticed it was not connected, I haven't had the chance to look into it.
I will certainly get some pics up, its been raining badly here in Portland OR, nothing new though. I had to see his car in his garage to be able to properly inspect the exterior.
I will certainly get some pics up, its been raining badly here in Portland OR, nothing new though. I had to see his car in his garage to be able to properly inspect the exterior.
Typically dealership charges one hour programing.
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You have a real gem there, drive it in the best of health. Make sure that the robber parts are not dry rotted from age. In April of 2005 I bought my 2005 R 52S from someone in Key Largo, FL. The car had sat in his garage for 10 years and only had 3,648 miles. Some of the foam rubber seals along with the tires needed replaced immediately and the front motor mgt blew at about 14,000 miles
Last edited by cdumitru78; 04-18-2017 at 04:28 PM.
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Hehe, I knew it was a matter of time before I started spending money on this car! In doing a brief search online it appears the OEM 380 injectors is the way to go, so most likely will head that route once I make sure everything else with the car is in great shape. I like to at least to an oil change to make sure its been done.