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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Factory JCW exhaust burble and pop

One of the few things I don't like about my R56 with JCW Stage 1 Kit is it lacks the burble and pop of the R53.

Does anyone know if there's something that can be done to get the burble and pop (other than selling my R56 and buying an R53 which isn't going to happen)?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Two words, my friend... Alta exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MoxieMini
Two words, my friend... Alta exhaust.
that's not the same as the burble that STLMINI is talking about.
the r53's have a distinct burble that the r56's dont have.

r56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZST...eature=related

r53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWSK...eature=related

listen to points :11 and :13, it's almost like backfire but "brubley"
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Exactly glnr13.

I wonder if it's as simple as putting the Factory JCW exhaust on.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Here is a good one of a Clubman S with the (I believe) factory JCW exhaust since the Stage 1 kit isn't yet available for the Clubby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhz3N...eature=related
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by STLMINI
Exactly glnr13.

I wonder if it's as simple as putting the Factory JCW exhaust on.
No, it's not. From my understanding it's an ECU thing; the engine "wastes" a little fuel when you lift to get the burble and pop. It's there on the Stage II JCW; it may take some programming from an aftermarket tuner to get it on the Stage I. It doesn't add anything to performance, but it's damned cool. One reason I won't part with my R53 JCW.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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i've read the pop comes from the software

it's only present on my car with the sport button ON
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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No, it's not. From my understanding it's an ECU thing; the engine "wastes" a little fuel when you lift to get the burble and pop. It's there on the Stage II JCW; it may take some programming from an aftermarket tuner to get it on the Stage I. It doesn't add anything to performance, but it's damned cool. One reason I won't part with my R53 JCW.

Exactly.... the unspent fuel makes the burble. I know a lot of people have looked into changing the fuel maps but to the best of my knowledge, it's not happening.

On my older mini's, I hated the burble, it always made me feel like people were thinking my car was backfiring.

Now that I have an R56, I miss the burble....

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Yep, a combo of the exhaust and the programming. It bleeds a bit of fuel to make the sound in sport mode. Mine "pops" more than anything. I haven't fully broken it in yet so I try not to beat it up too much. Unless the car is tuned different, it won't quite sound the same.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Until I upgraded my Gen1 to a full JCW, I never noticed any burble/pop. Now it's like an old in-your-face friend. I'm glad it's still there on our Gen 2 JCW.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:54 AM
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i think the burble sounds like pop corn
 
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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I just put a NM-eng. cat-back exhaust on my '09 Clubman S and it "burbles" now, not as much as the r53 but it didn't do it before, and like I said, it does it now.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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my JCW can sometimes pop LOUD when switching into second. It's always fun starting off at a light and hearing that when dozens of people are walking on the sidewalks nearby.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I used to have an 05 MCS with a deleted center muffler and OBX manifold, and that used to burble a hell of a lot, but my new Factory JCW doesn't burble. It pops and bangs and cracks, almost as loud as gunfire. And its completely stock.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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i can't believe no one touched on this yet. the r56 will not make the same glorious noises as the r53 because it's turbocharged. a turbo by design is going to quiet down exhaust noises a lot more than a supercharger.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xphiledan
i can't believe no one touched on this yet. the r56 will not make the same glorious noises as the r53 because it's turbocharged. a turbo by design is going to quiet down exhaust noises a lot more than a supercharger.
I can't believe you don't know what you're talking about....

After owning 2 R53's and 2 R56's, I ASSURE you my R56 BURBLES out the yingyang.

In fact, it sounds waaay better than an R53.

Seriously though, point is it can be done.... right tune, right exhaust.

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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
I can't believe you don't know what you're talking about....

After owning 2 R53's and 2 R56's, I ASSURE you my R56 BURBLES out the yingyang.

In fact, it sounds waaay better than an R53.

Seriously though, point is it can be done.... right tune, right exhaust.

Mark
+1. My stock JCW exhaust sounds far better than my old modded R53 exhaust.
Not only does it burble a lot more, when it backfires it's 5 times louder than an R53's pops
 
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Though this was without a resonator, here's a clip of what my exhaust sounds like.



 

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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
I can't believe you don't know what you're talking about....

Seriously though, point is it can be done.... right tune, right exhaust.
I'm not saying that it can't be done. Proper tuning and design can get a good sound out of anything.

What I'm saying is that all things being equal - if you take 2 cars with the same engine and same exhaust, and you bolt up a turbo to one and a supercharger to the other. The turbocharged car is going to be much quieter. That's simply the nature of its design since it's exhaust driven.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by xphiledan
I'm not saying that it can't be done. Proper tuning and design can get a good sound out of anything.

What I'm saying is that all things being equal - if you take 2 cars with the same engine and same exhaust, and you bolt up a turbo to one and a supercharger to the other. The turbocharged car is going to be much quieter. That's simply the nature of its design since it's exhaust driven.
Absolutely agree....
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 05:36 AM
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Nice rumble
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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Nice rumble

Thanks Stig, actually it sounds much better now that I installed a resonator on it. It gives it a deeper sound and loses the raspiness of the video.


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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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If riss does not make good on my pipe hector will get a new customer.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
Though this was without a resonator, here's a clip of what my exhaust sounds like.



Mark, Sounds great. This whole discussion could have gone on back in the 60's with exhaust sound from a high lift cam. We called it the "Rump Rump" sound. What most didn't realize back then is like now with the burble, exhaust gasses not being burnt. Oh well, sounds nice.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Heads-up!! Jan with RMW has unlocked the burble and pop for the R56 with the RMW ECU tune.
 
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