JCW JCW Aero with JCW Suspension doesn't make sense.
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JCW Aero with JCW Suspension doesn't make sense.
I've read several post and it just doesn't seem that having the 07 JCW Aero kit and dropping it even .4 inches using the JCW suspension kit will not work with all the rubbing. Reading the articles where it says at stock height you will rub every once in awhile and with the suspension expect to rub all the time, why even bother?
I figured even when you sit in the car at stock with the JCW, you will already get your natural drop so it could look pretty decent than add any type of drop kit like JCW and you may drop almost 1 inch and expect to rub all the time.
Would just putting 18 inch wheels on instead of the stock 17 give you the low profile look anyway without need of suspension change? It seems that would be my only option.
I'm looking at coilovers, JCW suspension and just straight springs...but all have the same story if you have the JCW Aero.
I still can't decide...
I figured even when you sit in the car at stock with the JCW, you will already get your natural drop so it could look pretty decent than add any type of drop kit like JCW and you may drop almost 1 inch and expect to rub all the time.
Would just putting 18 inch wheels on instead of the stock 17 give you the low profile look anyway without need of suspension change? It seems that would be my only option.
I'm looking at coilovers, JCW suspension and just straight springs...but all have the same story if you have the JCW Aero.
I still can't decide...
Last edited by sancochojoe; Dec 6, 2007 at 11:41 AM.
i couldn't really understand precisely what you were trying to say/write. are you saying you're looking for a combo that doesn't rub? occasional rubbing is ok and when you get the factory/jcw 18" rims they recommend you also install steering stoppers. i don't think the aerokit will affect rubbing that much, since when the tires rub it's mostly against the wheel wells. looks like your car is still on order; i think if you the jcw suspension and 18" rims when you order it's pretty safe. even when you get aftermarkets it won't be that much of a problem as long as you stay w/ the popularly recommended wheel size. as far as lowering the car, i'm a bit wary about that. i dunno about r56's ride height, by r53 is already a bit low at stock and i rub the front at dips and some speed bumps already. suspension kits lower a bit for functional reasons. if you just want to do it for the look, i'd say don't for reasons of convenience
Last edited by roaduscarnivorous; Dec 6, 2007 at 11:16 AM.
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Well the article from the motoringfile about the JCW Suspension that lowers it .4 with the JCW Aero Kit that I have installed scared me a bit.
The quote:
"One thing to watch out for with the suspension kit is ride height. While 1 cm doesn’t sound like much of a drop, it’s enough make the car bottom out on a daily basis. This is specifically the case with those who have the JCW Aero-kit. While the kit lowers the ground clearance on both the front and side of the car, it’s the front air-deflectors that take the majority of the impacts. In fact I’ve taken enough of them that my driver-side deflector finally gave up somewhere on Sheridan Rd. just north of Chicago last week. Luckily replacements are all of $9."
The link: http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/08/...-at-the-track/
Are you saying there would be less bottoming out with 18's vs 17's??
The quote:
"One thing to watch out for with the suspension kit is ride height. While 1 cm doesn’t sound like much of a drop, it’s enough make the car bottom out on a daily basis. This is specifically the case with those who have the JCW Aero-kit. While the kit lowers the ground clearance on both the front and side of the car, it’s the front air-deflectors that take the majority of the impacts. In fact I’ve taken enough of them that my driver-side deflector finally gave up somewhere on Sheridan Rd. just north of Chicago last week. Luckily replacements are all of $9."
The link: http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/08/...-at-the-track/
Are you saying there would be less bottoming out with 18's vs 17's??
Last edited by sancochojoe; Dec 6, 2007 at 11:53 AM.
Well the article from the motoringfile about the JCW Suspension that lowers it .4 with the JCW Aero Kit that I have installed scared me a bit.
"One thing to watch out for with the suspension kit is ride height. While 1 cm doesn’t sound like much of a drop, it’s enough make the car bottom out on a daily basis. This is specifically the case with those who have the JCW Aero-kit. While the kit lowers the ground clearance on both the front and side of the car, it’s the front air-deflectors that take the majority of the impacts. In fact I’ve taken enough of them that my driver-side deflector finally gave up somewhere on Sheridan Rd. just north of Chicago last week. Luckily replacements are all of $9."
Are you saying there would be less bottoming out with 18's vs 17's??
"One thing to watch out for with the suspension kit is ride height. While 1 cm doesn’t sound like much of a drop, it’s enough make the car bottom out on a daily basis. This is specifically the case with those who have the JCW Aero-kit. While the kit lowers the ground clearance on both the front and side of the car, it’s the front air-deflectors that take the majority of the impacts. In fact I’ve taken enough of them that my driver-side deflector finally gave up somewhere on Sheridan Rd. just north of Chicago last week. Luckily replacements are all of $9."
Are you saying there would be less bottoming out with 18's vs 17's??
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So what type of tire/wheel combo would haunt me with a lot of rubbing.
You can use a Tire Size Calculator to compare diameters on various size tires:
215/35-18 = 23.9"
205/45-17 = 24.3"
205/40-18 = 24.5"
215/40-18 = 24.8"
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Those which have a lower tire diameter than 205/45-17.
You can use a Tire Size Calculator to compare diameters on various size tires:
215/35-18 = 23.9"
205/45-17 = 24.3"
205/40-18 = 24.5"
215/40-18 = 24.8"
You can use a Tire Size Calculator to compare diameters on various size tires:
215/35-18 = 23.9"
205/45-17 = 24.3"
205/40-18 = 24.5"
215/40-18 = 24.8"
The JCW Aerokit does nothing to change the wheel-well openings so there's no change in this area from stock. The suspension kit doesn't cause any rubbing on either of my tire/wheel set-ups: 215/18/35 or 205/17/45.
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I would like some comfort in the ride. Washington DC is not often kind to low profile
If you're going with 17" wheels you can run 215/45-17.
Last edited by MINIAC; Dec 6, 2007 at 04:35 PM.
I've had my MCS for over a month now ... complete with JCW Aero and 215x45zr17 tires. The suspension is stock. Last weekend I removed the front air deflectors since they were both broken and flapping around. I remember scraping them _once_ pulling in to my driveway, but no other times that I can remember.
I can't imagine running lowered suspension with the aero kit and still retain the air deflectors.
Jeff
I can't imagine running lowered suspension with the aero kit and still retain the air deflectors.
Jeff
Another Question for Gabe
Several people have said the front deflectors on their JCW Aero Kits have been damaged or broken off. How safe do you believe those deflectors would
be on an R56 MCS with 17" X 7" (stock size) OZ Ultraleggeras with 205/45 X 17 (again, stock size) summer performance tires?
Thanks, in advance, for your input.
Gabe:
Several people have said the front deflectors on their JCW Aero Kits have been damaged or broken off. How safe do you believe those deflectors would
be on an R56 MCS with 17" X 7" (stock size) OZ Ultraleggeras with 205/45 X 17 (again, stock size) summer performance tires?
Thanks, in advance, for your input.
Several people have said the front deflectors on their JCW Aero Kits have been damaged or broken off. How safe do you believe those deflectors would
be on an R56 MCS with 17" X 7" (stock size) OZ Ultraleggeras with 205/45 X 17 (again, stock size) summer performance tires?
Thanks, in advance, for your input.
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Hey Gabe or anybody else,
If I go with the Hamann HM4 thats 17x8 along with the JCW sports suspension with the JCW Aero kit, what is the best tire size for not rubbing and the safest and decent ride? Thanks.
If I go with the Hamann HM4 thats 17x8 along with the JCW sports suspension with the JCW Aero kit, what is the best tire size for not rubbing and the safest and decent ride? Thanks.
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