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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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R56 - Is there a DIY guide for taking Halogen headlights apart? Painted housing?

What's going on guys? I'm considering to remove the orangle turn indicator from my halogen lights and at the same time take them apart to paint the housing yellow (except for the main part around the headlight bulb). I know there are many who have painted the lights on the xenon projector headlights and they do look sick!!! Unfortunately i dont have the xenons on my car yet i'd like to give it the same matching look by taking them apart and painting them.
Has anyone done this or can refer me to a DIY guide to disassemble the halogen headlights on an 07 Mini Cooper S (R56)?

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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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Try searching "joey mod". There are numerous write ups on how to do it on the site. If you can't find a write up on the halogen, just follow the guide on xenon. It's pretty self explanatory once you open the light.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncl3
Try searching "joey mod". There are numerous write ups on how to do it on the site. If you can't find a write up on the halogen, just follow the guide on xenon. It's pretty self explanatory once you open the light.

X2.... exactly what Uncl3 said. The search button is your friend.


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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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X2.... exactly what Uncl3 said. The search button is your friend.


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You guys are a lot of help. You know when you search "joey mod" you get 249 results, and they are all just pictures of peoples mods, and none of them show how to do it.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Correction:

None of them show how to do it with an oven, not everyone has a heat gun.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Really? Weird...Search results...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mod-how-to.pdf
 
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Thank you! I remember reading that one a while back, but among all the posts of pictures of peoples joey mods and the posts of people asking how to do it and getting told "the search button is your friend", I couldn't find it.
 

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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Scooter: next time the ***** keep telling you that, Check your 'tude somewhere else and hit up Google. After all, the parrots do not owe you anything. Especially their time to use the search button and find you a thread! Lots of easy links. If you are even more creative, you can ask "how to open headlights in the oven" and get generic instructions for just about every car out there.

The oven really is the easy way to do it. It took me about 2 hours total do my car. (I had owned it less than 30 minutes at the time) Instead of metal tools, use stuff like plastic paint scrapers/etc. The metal will tear up the housing where one goes to pry it open. Use gloves, even thick rubber kitchen ones will help prevent you from burning your hands and getting the glue all over you. Keep in mind, rubber gloves WILL conduct heat and will burn you if they get too hot. I use some mechanics type gloves with rubber gloves over them.

This is a pretty decent guide, but not for an R56.
http://www.jlevistreetwerks.com/Bake.pdf
 

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Scooter: next time the a-holes keep telling you that, Check your 'tude somewhere else and hit up Google. After all, the parrots do not owe you anything. Especially their time to use the search button and find you a thread!
I'm sorry Brad Bedell, I wasn't trying to "have a 'tude", I just thought this was a community where people could ask people for help with things and get it. If this were an actual physical community and you came to my house and asked for help with something you couldn't find the solution to and I just said "YouTube" and shut the door, would that be helpful at all?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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If you showed up at my house or at a gathering and I knew it was on the 'interweb or youtube' and I didn't know right off the top of my head, Yes! I'd tell you to search and offer you my computer. After-all, I don't carry pictures of all the modifications I've done in my life to a car around in my wallet. Someone would have to search and I'd be willing to bet none of the people in posts supra had the window open or easily bookmarked.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooter09
I'm sorry Brad Bedell, I wasn't trying to "have a 'tude", I just thought this was a community where people could ask people for help with things and get it. If this were an actual physical community and you came to my house and asked for help with something you couldn't find the solution to and I just said "YouTube" and shut the door, would that be helpful at all?
This is a community where people could ask people for help but it is also a community that has guidelines. Maybe you should read them (especially #2, #3 and #4)

https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/guidelines

I am also a member of a few other forums that do not have these guidelines and on those forums trying to find an answer is about impossible. You mentioned having 249 threads show up under a search try searching on some of the other forums without a search requirement and you will find 24,900 (yes over 24 thousand) threads to look thru for answer. That is why this forum requests that people search and try to find an answer before posting. And if you do not find it them post a new thread or post to one that has similar issues so that others can find it easier.

But to be rude to the rest of the community is also not appreciated here, and will alienate people and they will stop answering you questions
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Btw Scooter, did you ever do the mod? I swore I had photos of my process, but must have just had the camera sitting next to me. Once they are hot, you don't have a bunch of time to get the job done.
 
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I know its an older thread but since I didn't see the quick reply of the following, here it is for those who find this while searching.

Bake at 200F for 5-7 minutes and work the clips and pull the lens from the housing. If it doesn't come after a minute or two of gentle prying, back in the oven for 5 minutes.

Do not paint the reflector surface that the light is bounced off of, your crappy halogens will get way worse.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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+1 I like this.
 
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Just a reminder that profanity and name-calling is not permitted...come on you guys...
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MLPearson79
Just a reminder that profanity and name-calling is not permitted...come on you guys...
Sorry... this isn't the first thread I've seen where someone has asked for help and gotten a "search bar" answer, it's frustrating. I understand that no one here is required to help anyone, but then, why would anyone want to come here. Some how I've become the bad guy on this thread for getting frustrated for people not being helpful, so, whatever...
 

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 06:14 AM
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Maybe if you learned to actually use the search function. Like limit the search to a specific forum subsection like the HOW TO, or Exterior modifications, you would get better results.

As we engineers say, garbage in = garbage out...
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by richardsperry
Maybe if you learned to actually use the search function. Like limit the search to a specific forum subsection like the HOW TO, or Exterior modifications, you would get better results.

As we engineers say, garbage in = garbage out...
Holy crap, seriously? Well, from one engineer to another, thanks for the garbage...
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooter09
Holy crap, seriously? Well, from one engineer to another, thanks for the garbage...
lol SNAP!

(From another engineer)
 
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WTF man? Most morons on here say they "USED" the search function, when all they do is type "joey mod" into the main box. Of course you're going to get a billion hits. Maybe I should have said, learn to use the ADVANCED search function. And actually an advanced Google search is way better...
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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You guys think this is frustrating? Then you should try searching for information on Factory Navigation retrofitting... Or maybe factory heated seat retrofitting... I'd have been ecstatic with a search term that allowed me to narrow down my research.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by richardsperry
WTF man? Most morons on here say they "USED" the search function, when all they do is type "joey mod" into the main box. Of course you're going to get a billion hits. Maybe I should have said, learn to use the ADVANCED search function. And actually an advanced Google search is way better...
Sorry for blowing at you man, I literally woke up, checked my e-mail, and responded to you. I've been getting blasted for a couple weeks now for trying to point out that telling someone to use the search tool isn't really help. Assuming someone is too stupid to use the search tool before posting and then telling them to use it is not even worth anyone's time. You're right though, but I did use the advanced search tool, under different topics and using different key words (joey, mod, modification, oven, headlights... etc.) and never found what I was looking for. And now, I've been attacked all week for voicing my frustration. I'm over it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Let's smooth this out...

Okay, I'm going crazy trying to figure out what's happened here, so I'm going to try and straighten it out and address your comments one at a time.
Brad:
Originally Posted by Brad Bedell
Scooter: next time the ***** keep telling you that, Check your 'tude somewhere else and hit up Google. After all, the parrots do not owe you anything. Especially their time to use the search button and find you a thread! Lots of easy links. If you are even more creative, you can ask "how to open headlights in the oven" and get generic instructions for just about every car out there.
I've already addressed knowing no one owes anyone anything, but I've been using a computer since Windows 3.1, I know how search tools and Google work, but, for some reason, I couldn't find what I was looking for. What I was looking for was that .pdf that guy attached.

You never answered my question, but I'm sure the answer it is yes. PLease read on before you go anywhere outside of me trying to fix whatever is going on here.

Originally Posted by Scooter09
If this were an actual physical community and you came to my house and asked for help with something you couldn't find the solution to and I just said "YouTube" and shut the door, would that be helpful at all?
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If you showed up at my house or at a gathering and I knew it was on the 'interweb or youtube' and I didn't know right off the top of my head, Yes! I'd tell you to search and offer you my computer.
This pretty much states that you agree with me, besides letting me use your computer to search, but, schatzy62, that assumes I haven't followed Rule #3.

schatzy62:
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This is a community where people could ask people for help but it is also a community that has guidelines. Maybe you should read them (especially #2, #3 and #4)

And if you do not find it them post a new thread or post to one that has similar issues so that others can find it easier.

But to be rude to the rest of the community is also not appreciated here, and will alienate people and they will stop answering you questions
You're right, #2 and #4 are on me, but, isn't assuming someone is stupid, or even lazy by not following rule #3, kind of an ________ thing to do? I'd rather assume people are capable and intelligent and help them if I can instead of assuming they're idiots incapable of helping themselves, which is my whole point. Also, I did what you said about making a new thread, and you hit me on it?

Originally Posted by Brad Bedell
Btw Scooter, did you ever do the mod? I swore I had photos of my process, but must have just had the camera sitting next to me. Once they are hot, you don't have a bunch of time to get the job done.
Yes, I did it, the instructions the guy sent were just EXACTLY what I was looking for and it turned out great.

Originally Posted by yetti96
I know its an older thread but since I didn't see the quick reply of the following, here it is for those who find this while searching.

Bake at 200F for 5-7 minutes and work the clips and pull the lens from the housing. If it doesn't come after a minute or two of gentle prying, back in the oven for 5 minutes.

Do not paint the reflector surface that the light is bounced off of, your crappy halogens will get way worse.
Thanks, I already did it, and the instructions said 250F for 5 minutes, and it worked great. I made sure not to paint the reflectors.

Originally Posted by richardsperry
Maybe if you learned to actually use the search function. Like limit the search to a specific forum subsection like the HOW TO, or Exterior modifications, you would get better results.

As we engineers say, garbage in = garbage out...
As an engineer, you probably feel the same as me when people talk to you like your stupid, to you, I apologize.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooter09
Okay, I'm going crazy trying to figure out what's happened here, so I'm going to try and straighten it out and address your comments one at a time.
Brad:


I've already addressed knowing no one owes anyone anything, but I've been using a computer since Windows 3.1, I know how search tools and Google work, but, for some reason, I couldn't find what I was looking for. What I was looking for was that .pdf that guy attached.

You never answered my question, but I'm sure the answer it is yes.
First, thanks for the note kind note. My intent was not to attack you, I'm sorry if it was presented that way. This is likely showing my age(40), but one of my biggest pet peeves that I keep well-fed are people expecting things simply because they are present. I probably should refer to my advice infra... Anyhow, my most sincere apologies for the mis-understanding. (I still think the guys who just post up 'use the search' were worthy of my name calling, myself included)

I've been working on cars since about the time Winders came out. There's not much I've not done with them at this point. The only big thing left on my car-related bucket list is to design and build one from scratch. As for computers since about the TI-99.

The only question that I see above that I didn't answer was you asking if referring you to youtube was helpful. My answer is neither a yes or no. While I do share your frustration, I'd assume no one knew and go figure out the concept and then apply it to my current car.

The last time I did a set of headlights was in 2005, the first time was in 1997 on a 3000gt vr4. I've done 40-50 sets, most for customers in my past life. In September, I referred to the exact PDF I posted in my first response to get approx baking temp and time. Baking headlights isn't anything new, but the "engineer" in me needed to recall the exact time/temp.

My mis-interpreted, or potentially obfuscated point was that you were being way too specific for this task. Learn the concept, not the task. It can be applied to any car you own in the future.

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Yes, I did it, the instructions the guy sent were just EXACTLY what I was looking for and it turned out great.
Glad it worked out! I did mine in September, 30 minutes after I bought the car. My wife commented as I was putting the lights in the oven, "What is it that you personally hate about having a car with a warranty!?"

I didn't know what the Joey Mod was until this thread. So, in a way your persistence taught me something. (my hard headed self searched through 600+ BMW and MINI threads to end up empty handed for my navigation retrofit)

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You worry too much. Message forums brings out the same agression as driving. For some reason, people forget that they are human.
 
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