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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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boost gauge help!!!

i know this is prob on here already but i do not have time im in a rush sorry guys...BUT i installed an autometer boost gauge, here is my issue....i tapped into the fuel pressure regulater air line that outmotoring tells you to tap into...reads vacuum awesome, why is it not showing boost???? please help!
 
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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was the line you tapped into plastic line or a soft rubber line?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Were you at Idle ?

MINI's register vaccum during idle....and you will not see any boost by revvvvvvin her either....

Boost will register when engine is under load. Take her for a spin !
 
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
MINI's register vaccum during idle....and you will not see any boost by revvvvvvin her either....

Boost will register when engine is under load. Take her for a spin !
Not true on s/c'd engines, only turbo engines don't build boost with no load.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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try this...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ight=autometer
 
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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if you need any help, feel free to send me a PM
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by groovetini
Not true on s/c'd engines, only turbo engines don't build boost with no load.
That makes no sense what so ever, who told you that ?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
That makes no sense what so ever, who told you that ?
My boost gauge :P Because s/c's are tied to the engine speed, not load, we can build boost in neutral.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Who told you this ? ?

Originally Posted by groovetini
Not true on s/c'd engines, only turbo engines don't build boost with no load.
Our supercharger is a centrifugal-style supercharger, which are internal-compression superchargers. Meaning they create the boost (compress the air) inside the supercharger head unit (blower) before discharging it into the engine's air intake.

They ONLY provide power when the engine is under full throttle or under load... not under normal cruising conditions. That is why superchargers will not affect the MINI's engine reliability, longevity, or fuel economy under normal driving conditions.......if it were under load constantly we would be getting litterally like 18 mpg !

The guage will read VACUUM and NOT boost unless the engine is under load. Like I said - TAKE IF FOR A SPIN !
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by groovetini
My boost gauge :P Because s/c's are tied to the engine speed, not load, we can build boost in neutral.
Sorry, no disrespect, but mechanical engineering is not your forte', no matter what your Boost guage reads. It is not supposed to be reading any BOOST to your engine until there is a load placed upon it.......especially at idle and esp in neutral.

Boost is created at the point when the supercharger's internal impeller pushes enough air through the blower to overcome the vaccuum force naturally created by the engine's air intake, so air is being forced, rather than pulled, into the air intake.

back at ya :
 
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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boost- simplified

When at idle your engine manifold vacuum is at its highest, this in turn opens your Bypass Valve, relieving the sc from building pressure, affinity or "fan laws" state that CFM varies propotionally with RPM, and the Pressure increases to the square of the rpm. when the bypass valve opens (idle) the sc has nothing to do (equal pressure on both sides); like when you put your hand over the end of your vacuum cleaner hose, the motor speeds up because it is not sucking air, the vacuum cleaner's amperage is at its lowest at this point (contrary to popular belief).

When you accelerate, your Mini's manifold vacuum drops and and the bypass closes, quickly building pressure that exceeds manifold vacuum and pushing air into the cylider versus it being sucked in. Vacuum at idle/ boost under load, somewhere in the middle, under cruising condition
 
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanKidd
When at idle your engine manifold vacuum is at its highest, this in turn opens your Bypass Valve, relieving the sc from building pressure, affinity or "fan laws" state that CFM varies propotionally with RPM, and the Pressure increases to the square of the rpm. when the bypass valve opens (idle) the sc has nothing to do (equal pressure on both sides); like when you put your hand over the end of your vacuum cleaner hose, the motor speeds up because it is not sucking air, the vacuum cleaner's amperage is at its lowest at this point (contrary to popular belief).

When you accelerate, your Mini's manifold vacuum drops and and the bypass closes, quickly building pressure that exceeds manifold vacuum and pushing air into the cylider versus it being sucked in. Vacuum at idle/ boost under load, somewhere in the middle, under cruising condition
Nice explanation. So, getting off topic just for a second, I was wondering if now maybe my bypass valve could be faulty. My car has a delay to it, but it seems more like a boost issue. I've been thinking of changing the belt out, but now am pondering the idea that maybe the bypass valve is faulty. Basically the car acts like it has an old school turbo on it displaying lag. It tries to take off fast and then all of a sudden it's like boost builds up and the car just goes. Any ideas?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Bypass "wiggle" test

If you look under the air horn right side as you face the engine you will see the small plastic actuating arm, cam and adjustable stop, with cold engine reach from the back and actuate the lever, it should move smooth and when released it should close where the cam just reaches the stop...(Aftermarket Detroit Tuned" bypass valve will close rapidly and rest on the stop). If your cam sits noticeably far from the stop or feels rough its probably bad...you are never getting full boost, 50% if you're lucky
 
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