I think your correct in saying that every BBK has a raised or indented logo.
But I'm quite certain that most of M7's products have a sticker, as well as alta.
Oh yah, my pully is a nice matte black, without any logo or branding.

 

And PU has an indented area where the logo of the real company used to be until PU removed it (see PU wheels for details)

j/k

 

Not going to comment on that, I honestly have no information supporting any sides of this story.
Nice one rally
Who knows...

 

Glad you got a laugh out of it....I'm done taking it too seriously. Just joking around now.

But if you're curious....the indentation is pretty funny: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&postcount=629

 

Blackie,

Don't take this the wrong way. I believe the look of a car should only matter to it's owner.

That said, after looking at you sig and the pic of your car I find it hard to believe the PU sig could bother you at all. You have allot going on.

Longboard

 

Axis doesn't manufacture their own wheel's either. There are very few "wheel" company's that actually manufacture their own wheels. Purchase a few euro car mags and you will find a bunch of company's selling wheels you have seen in the US under another name.

The same go's for 90% of the part's sold by NAM vendors.

Longboard

 

That is very true since there are only 7 wheel forgers in the states, so that would make it extremely difficult to all manufacture their own rims.

 

(since you brought it up....both Axis and Sportmax are the original designers of those wheels. The manufacturing might be outsourced to a machine shop....but they own the rights to the design and did all the design work themselves.

There is a difference between having a machine/forge/cast shop create the wheels that you designed and just simply selling someone else's wheels.

Example...PU designs the CF extension on the computer. They don't lay CF themselves so they send it to a CF-shop. They didn't necessarily manufacture the spoiler with their own hands....but it's considered to be their spoiler. This is where Axis and sportmax stand....they design the wheels and someone else forges/casts them.

The other option is something like the PU wheels. They didn't design the wheels and they didn't manufacture the wheels. They just rebadged them. That is different than the above example.

And of course....rebadging happens a lot on NAM because many of the companies don't have access to their own shops. But, besides PU, I've never seen them lie about it. M7 admits that their grilles are made by Ultimate Grilles....PU insists that their wheels were designed by their artist

 

My last wheels where Axis spiders. You can find that same wheel from at least five different brands.

I have been in manufacturing for over 20 years. Here is the thing. Companies like Axis and Sportmax have manufacturing partners who they work with. Most, if not all the wheel designs you see come from the manufactures. They show up, site down and then the new designs are brought out and shown. They pick the ones they like and then work on the finish and badging to make it their own.

The tooling cost's to create their own design are high. Most don't do it because it adds cost and they have to sell more to make a profit.

I'm not sure how Axis and Sportmax designed the same wheel. I have seen this same wheel in the euro rags under different brands.

As for PU claiming it was their design. If it wasn't they shouldn't have said it was.

Longboard

 

Obviously, how a car looks is in the eye of the beholder. If Midnite likes that gold sticking out on his otherwise nice black and chrome car, then more power to him. As to my own, trying to suggest that people in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks is about the only way to take what you wrote; at least in my case there are no odd-man-out colors going on with it that distract from the theme.

 

The problem is PU will never admit to it; they'd rather make up fantastic tales of suing other companies for ripping off their proprietary designs. They are simply full of it, especially when you see that slotted area on just one of the spokes (exactly the size and shape of) where the badge should go; what would be the purpose of that open slot on just one spoke, other than for a missing badge they couldn't use of reveal themselves to be fakers?

 

....and this is where the PU integrity gap widens into the Grand Canyon.

 

Ok, ok. I guess I will have to admit this sooner or later. I am Palo Uber's love child. Mom said he looked pretty cool in his black turtleneck and beret. And she was pretty drunk.

 

I don't know you...but you're awesome

 

+1

 

Gracie. My name is Tazio. Tazio Nuvolari.

 

Since you will inherit this man's awesome art inventory, the licensing rights to his name, and the rest of his vast fortune (including at least partial ownership of the Palo Uber auto accessories empire - yea, right) you'll be set for life, or hasn't paternity been proven yet? With a name like Palo Uber, he sounds like the deadbeat dad type to me anyway.

 

BTW, does this mean you'll get us (at least the ones who regularly immerse ourselves in the PU soap operas here on NAM) huge family discounts on PU's sub-standard, re-badged, and otherwise over-priced auto accessories?

 

In a way I owe a lot to Tazio's daddy. Without Palo Uber's incessant shenanigans and abuse I never would have made it out of second gear.

 

I think a lot of that can be attributed to the fact that you make 3 posts in a row in the same thread instead of just pressing the edit button

 

 

 

I think I come up with such pearls that they warrant their own individual space.

 

Is the logo a sticker? Can it be removed? I've read handfuls of PU threads, and have to agree with most, but this wing does look very nice.