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Old 03-29-2011, 04:46 PM
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The bearing can punch through the encasement without cracking the rubber up top; replace the guide support. To verify, turn the guide support upside down and compare with the other support for thickness, it will show signs of separation around the bearing sleeve edges on the bottom. Also, the early model (R53/50) guide support rubber encasement is flat on top, and the bearing rides a little higher; the later version for the same model (R53/50 etc.), is dished with a conical neck around the bearing, you could have a different guide support version between sides if it has seen repair before.
For replacements buy the Ireland fixed camber plate replacements. Not only are they a lot stronger, they have added camber which will GREATLY improve the handling and feel of the car with no drawbacks (no noticable increase in tire wear). You will think you are driving a different car altogether.
 
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I agree with the IE fixed plates since they are the same price as factory ones. The only other money saving alternative I can think of is put an ad in the marketplace here and get one used, but if you are looking to do it right, get the IE plates.
 
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A couple of useful tips that I've used previously in other cars for those working on this without wanting to spend the money on the BMW half open tool. You can use spark plug sockets that can be purchase at any auto parts store and an allen wrench as demonstrated below. I've worked on a lot of different cars in the past and the MINI has to be the easiest suspension I've ever worked on. I didn't even have to compress the springs while on the vehicle to get it out. After removing the bolts, I was able to just lightly stomp on brakes with my foot and it pulled right out of the shocks.

3/16 for the top hat and 5/8 for the sway bar links.

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You want to remove the top hat AFTER you remove the shock/spring assembly from the vehicle. I'm only showing this as a demonstration on how it works. Slide the allen wrench until it's secured in then use an open wrench on the flat side of the socket and use a plier to hold the allen wrench in place.

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Just put in a set of Koni FSDs using the spark plug socket and allen wrench but used a 6 mm box wrench on the allen. Word of caution.... the Koni's use a 3/4" nut so the spark plug socket doesn't fit too well. But being 6 point you can get by. Also, it is a little easier to loosen the nut on the top hat while it is still in the car but do it only a turn or 2. An impact wrench works well for that. Without the allen wrench, the nut and shaft just spin when it is loose. Don't use an impact wrench to tighten it...other posts say you can snap the stud off if you do.
 
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question for all, attempted to do the install this past weekend and may have ran into a problem. when attempting to loosen the strut shaft nut Imay have stripped the hex bolt. Anyone run into this? possible solutions?
 
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Try to use a impact gun. Maybe borrow one or ask a shop to do it for free. Air gun will definiey get it off without using the Allen to hold it.
 
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Auto man thanks. Any reason why you can't loosen the strut bolt while the strut is still bolted to car???
 
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U mean the strut is still on the car and u stripped the Allen bolt(Strut shaft) while removing the strut shaft nut....
If that's the case either take the whole strut out(remove the 3 nuts on top and the bolt on the bottom of the strut)
Or just see it u can get an air gun or impact gun to the nut up top and it should get the nut off the shaft.
 
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Oh yeah if u do remove the strut Shaft bolt while still in the car it's guna be dangerous to take the strut out cuz it will be under pressure. Better to remove the nut when the assembly is out of the car. Sorry I didn't say that before I'm on my phone writing this post and at a party lol
 
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Thanks to Everyone

This is an excellent post and all of the information helped with a successful repair. I have only owned my 2005 R50 for four months and the cold weather alerted me to a cracked passenger strut mount. The strut tower on the drivers side was badly mushroomed as well. Purchased the IE Fixed Camber plates and Craven STD's to ensure a proper fix as well as beef up the strut tower. They were purchased from WMW who was extremely helpful. Also replaced the struts since I'm around 75K miles. After alignment, it feels amazing and really handles the turns great! Thank you all!
 
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you're welcome!
the best part is enjoying the result.
 
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Hey guys this post is awesome. I have just have some quick words.
I just swapped out the stock springs for some m7 sport springs. I did the front and rear without removing the struts. It was incredibly easy, I am not sure if this has already been mentioned I just thought I would share just in case there are some people scared of this task.

All I did was remove the swaybar endlink from the top of the strut, removed the nut holding the strut to the strut mount and pulled the assembly out far enough that I could remove everything.

Same with the rear pretty much, just separated the sway bar from the strut and removed the two bolts holding the assembly to the car and pulled it out.

Like I said, it was incredibly easy. First side took me 45min per wheel, second half was half that amount.

Oh and no special tools or spring clamps needed
 
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diponyou makes this sound easier than the previous posts. Can I get a second opinion on that? Seriously, no need to use the special tools or spring clamps?
 

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You don't really need the spring clamp but it makes it safer to do so. The spring clamp prevents the pressure from popping the top hats off when you remove the top nut from the strut. I've done it before by stepping on the spring and putting a blanket over it so loose parts don't fly all over the place. If you don't have an air compressor you will need to get creative with the bolt to remove the top hat. Best way to do it is by using a spark plug socket. I would suggest loosening the top hat bolt while the strut is still bolted on to the strut tower too or you will end up fighting yourself trying to hold the strut and springs while breaking it loose. See my pic below. Loosen just enough so it breaks the tightness. Don't remove the top hat bolt all the way or the spring expand and lengthen the strut making it even more difficult to remove.

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It really is easy. And if you are removing the stock springs you do not need the spring compressors. And you can do it without a impact wrench.

You can tell how much pressure the springs will have once you start loosening the retaining nut, as you get towards the end of the threads there is no pressure from the springs any more.

Lets not complicate this guys, it is an incredibly easy job to do and anybody with some basic wrenching skills can do this in a few hours.

Evasive tip about using a spark plug wrench is awesome, I would not have thought of that.

If anybody has some questions regarding this please send me a pm I will be happy to answer anything.
 
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Why are the pictures gone! Grr I know its an old thread but a good one.
 
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Why are the pictures gone! Grr I know its an old thread but a good one.
Problem is that people have limited picture space and over time they can run out. Bummer yes, but limits are limits.

What are you looking to do or are stuck with? Maybe someone can help.
 
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Just got a new set of coilovers for my MCS, I'm going on the Arctic Mini run in Feb and I found one of me mounts almost completely cracked when I installed my new BBS golden Holies! I just bought a set of Megan's and the M7 brace/defenders to solve the problem for good.





 
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Originally Posted by HotRodPontiac
Just got a new set of coilovers for my MCS, I'm going on the Arctic Mini run in Feb and I found one of me mounts almost completely cracked when I installed my new BBS golden Holies! I just bought a set of Megan's and the M7 brace/defenders to solve the problem for good.
Sorry to hear about the crack. That is a problem with the Gen 1s. Sounds like you have a good "fix" in mind.

Like the Holies, BTW

Is there a particular part of the change out that you need help with that you need the pictures for?
 
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No not really, my buddy and I are going to tackle it probably this up coming Friday. We both have plenty of knowledge of wrenching. I was just reading the thread to get familiar with the concepts. I'm used to working on my 68 Pontiac that as you can imagine is just different all together lol. I think the "How To" threads are a great tool that should be preserved for future use!

Thanks for the like on the R81's I've wanted a set of holies for a while! And Gold is one of the only colors that look good on a chili red!
 
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Originally Posted by HotRodPontiac
No not really, my buddy and I are going to tackle it probably this up coming Friday. We both have plenty of knowledge of wrenching. I was just reading the thread to get familiar with the concepts. I'm used to working on my 68 Pontiac that as you can imagine is just different all together lol. I think the "How To" threads are a great tool that should be preserved for future use!

Thanks for the like on the R81's I've wanted a set of holies for a while! And Gold is one of the only colors that look good on a chili red!
+1 on the "How to" threads...good luck with your wrenching. Let us know how it comes out.



BTY - what is this "Arctic Mini run"? Kinda sounds like me going to northern VT (Stowe) to go skiing in January
 
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
+1 on the "How to" threads...good luck with your wrenching. Let us know how it comes out.



BTY - what is this "Arctic Mini run"? Kinda sounds like me going to northern VT (Stowe) to go skiing in January
This is probably one on the most intense MINI runs that I've heard about. I've done the Dragon, MOT, tons of foodie runs but nothing this epic.

This year we are doing about 4500 miles. Our first part of the route is the first link. Then we put the MINI's on a ferry and for a day or two and pick up the trip on the second link. Its a pretty intense trip and only 5 MINI's and an AWD car are going.

We have a few avid photographers coming so we are sure to have some sweet pictures of the trip! I will post a flicker link when we get back. We are starting on the 16th of February.

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So as it turns out I do have one question, is there a hole on the top of the rear strut towers that I can sneak the "remote" damper adjuster through? The Megan system ships with approximately 10" long damper extensions that attach to the adjustment **** on the top of the strut. (see picture)

 
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No hole, you will need to drill one for the extension.
 


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