Oil Changes
#1
Oil Changes
What's your experience getting oil changes at local mechanics and tune-up shops? Any special parts or special oil required?
I know, with my wife's Land Rover, you have to have a special ($24.95) oil filter, which very few places (and not too many auto parts stores) have.
Or can I just drive into Jiffy Lube for a quick oil change?
I know, with my wife's Land Rover, you have to have a special ($24.95) oil filter, which very few places (and not too many auto parts stores) have.
Or can I just drive into Jiffy Lube for a quick oil change?
#2
Outmotoring has OEM filters.
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...il_filter.html
I've read, on these forums, that people have had problems with aftermarket filters.
I use MINI's own oil, purchased at the dealer, it doesn't cost any more than other synthetic oils and meets the factory LL01 specs.
Dave
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...il_filter.html
I've read, on these forums, that people have had problems with aftermarket filters.
I use MINI's own oil, purchased at the dealer, it doesn't cost any more than other synthetic oils and meets the factory LL01 specs.
Dave
#3
You need a good quality synthetic of the proper weight. MINI provides a list of "acceptable" oil. I usually look for something that at least meets the ACEA A3/B3 spec and the BMW-LL01 spec, though there are good oils that don't meet those (e.g. Royal Purple, Amsoil, etc.).
I use the OEM filter. Haven't heard much about any quality aftermarket filters, but I think there are a couple out there. Maybe someone else has some experience.
Would definitely stay away from the chain lube places. If you can't do it yourself, find a good independent shop that has experience with MINIs. Your local club may be able to give you some leads. Or use the dealer (and hope you can find some deals/discounts).
I use the OEM filter. Haven't heard much about any quality aftermarket filters, but I think there are a couple out there. Maybe someone else has some experience.
Would definitely stay away from the chain lube places. If you can't do it yourself, find a good independent shop that has experience with MINIs. Your local club may be able to give you some leads. Or use the dealer (and hope you can find some deals/discounts).
#4
There is a ton of info about all of your questions here on the forum. While your car is under warranty I would take it to the dealer every 7500. You want to use a euro-spec oil. I use Mobil1 10-40. Jiffy Lube or places like that typically don't have the filters and the oil. I wouldn't take my car to a place like that. I have had good luck with Amazon. I do top side oil changes easy. Good luck
#5
One of the biggest problems with the chain oil-changers is that you have no idea who is actually doing the work, nor what kind of experience they have.
With a dealer, you at least know that someone with experience with MINIs will be doing the work, and they have all of the parts on hand and are more likely to stand behind their work if your car has any problems. Especially if you're still under warranty.
With an independent mechanic, you know that he is the one who is doing the work. Hopefully you've talked to him long enough to know how much experience he has with MINIs, and whether you think he is trustworthy or not.
Many (but not all) quickie oil-change places have an ever-changing collection of people whose training and experience can vary significantly. You typically don't get 20-year experts working there, because they are all pushing as hard as they can to cut costs.
If I knew that a mechanic I trusted worked for a particular quick oil change location, I wouldn't feel bad about using them. But none of them I know of do that. So it's the dealer or an independent, for me.
With a dealer, you at least know that someone with experience with MINIs will be doing the work, and they have all of the parts on hand and are more likely to stand behind their work if your car has any problems. Especially if you're still under warranty.
With an independent mechanic, you know that he is the one who is doing the work. Hopefully you've talked to him long enough to know how much experience he has with MINIs, and whether you think he is trustworthy or not.
Many (but not all) quickie oil-change places have an ever-changing collection of people whose training and experience can vary significantly. You typically don't get 20-year experts working there, because they are all pushing as hard as they can to cut costs.
If I knew that a mechanic I trusted worked for a particular quick oil change location, I wouldn't feel bad about using them. But none of them I know of do that. So it's the dealer or an independent, for me.
#6
#7
Run awy from quickie oil change shops...
The mini oil filter is slightly more common than landrover...but not by much....IS NOT A CANISTER oil filter like most shops know...but a filter cartridge, no outer casing.
Most EURO OILS are ok....but a quality syenthic 5w 30 is fine if out od warrenty if you fo oil changes every 5000 to 7500 miles like most folks.
that and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVELS ...MINIS CONSUME A BIT!!!
The mini oil filter is slightly more common than landrover...but not by much....IS NOT A CANISTER oil filter like most shops know...but a filter cartridge, no outer casing.
Most EURO OILS are ok....but a quality syenthic 5w 30 is fine if out od warrenty if you fo oil changes every 5000 to 7500 miles like most folks.
that and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVELS ...MINIS CONSUME A BIT!!!
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#9
To give you an idea how bad Jiffy Lube is, the one two blocks from my house is under its THIRD manager and once spent a month boarded up. I can't believe the entire chain hasn't gone under considering their crummy reputation (that is if they ever had one to begin with!). And how would you even know if they used the right tools? One thing I learned from experience, don't trust a repair shop that doesn't put windows in the waiting room. I always keep an eye on my car as they service it. Some crooked shops have been known to pour USED oil into a customer's car and charge for the oil change! And I caught one shop pouring less than a full oil fillup on my previous car. I filled it to the top and never went there again.
#10
Hey guys and gals~
hmmm, what is this: I bought a mini oil filter socket,
I changed the oil in spring - without changing the filter
I used to own a sports car performance center and am a mechanic
Mini is a 2002 purchased a winter ago
NOW~ I can't get either the filter off or the drain plug open??? just not man enough?
Also - instructions from manual says make sure to replace BOTH O rings?
New filter came with only 1 O ring for block to filter cannister?
Am I in a parallel world or what ?
~Chip
hmmm, what is this: I bought a mini oil filter socket,
I changed the oil in spring - without changing the filter
I used to own a sports car performance center and am a mechanic
Mini is a 2002 purchased a winter ago
NOW~ I can't get either the filter off or the drain plug open??? just not man enough?
Also - instructions from manual says make sure to replace BOTH O rings?
New filter came with only 1 O ring for block to filter cannister?
Am I in a parallel world or what ?
~Chip
#12
I used to work at a JiffyLube waaaaYYYY back in the day. And I would have to agree. The oil change technicians there while they receive training, I bet they really do not care how tight your oil plug is... And most likely they are using their calibrated elbow. So sure maybe the first 15 times no issues, but maybe time 16 and 17 you start noticing a drip and then time 18 they are telling you your drain plug hole is stripped/worn...
I believe if torqued properly you should never need a new drain plug.. I would trust a Mini technician calibrated elbow over some guy who probablely doesnt have to take a drug test and gets paid alot less...
I believe if torqued properly you should never need a new drain plug.. I would trust a Mini technician calibrated elbow over some guy who probablely doesnt have to take a drug test and gets paid alot less...
Run awy from quickie oil change shops...
The mini oil filter is slightly more common than landrover...but not by much....IS NOT A CANISTER oil filter like most shops know...but a filter cartridge, no outer casing.
Most EURO OILS are ok....but a quality syenthic 5w 30 is fine if out od warrenty if you fo oil changes every 5000 to 7500 miles like most folks.
that and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVELS ...MINIS CONSUME A BIT!!!
The mini oil filter is slightly more common than landrover...but not by much....IS NOT A CANISTER oil filter like most shops know...but a filter cartridge, no outer casing.
Most EURO OILS are ok....but a quality syenthic 5w 30 is fine if out od warrenty if you fo oil changes every 5000 to 7500 miles like most folks.
that and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVELS ...MINIS CONSUME A BIT!!!
#13
Hey guys and gals~
hmmm, what is this: I bought a mini oil filter socket,
I changed the oil in spring - without changing the filter
I used to own a sports car performance center and am a mechanic
Mini is a 2002 purchased a winter ago
NOW~ I can't get either the filter off or the drain plug open??? just not man enough?
Also - instructions from manual says make sure to replace BOTH O rings?
New filter came with only 1 O ring for block to filter cannister?
Am I in a parallel world or what ?
~Chip
hmmm, what is this: I bought a mini oil filter socket,
I changed the oil in spring - without changing the filter
I used to own a sports car performance center and am a mechanic
Mini is a 2002 purchased a winter ago
NOW~ I can't get either the filter off or the drain plug open??? just not man enough?
Also - instructions from manual says make sure to replace BOTH O rings?
New filter came with only 1 O ring for block to filter cannister?
Am I in a parallel world or what ?
~Chip
Hey Chip, lol im sure you are plenty man enough for this job. Hopefully I can be of some help. Sometimes the older (R50-53 engines) MINIs that have the oil filter in the back near the exhaust manifold, are a real pain to get loose, especially if you havent changed the filter in a while. What I have found helpful, is to use a ratchet with a flex-head and the 27mm socket, and purchase a big pipe (cheater bar) from home depot for about 10 bucks, to slide over the handle-end of your ratchet. This usually gives me enough leverage to get the oil filter loose. You can also try using a regular breaker bar , but usually I find the ratchet + pipe combo to work the best. MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THE CRAP OUT OF THE NEW O-RING WHEN YOU PUT IT ON!!!!!! This is the most important part. Because if you dont lube it, you will break it, and spill oil all over your garage floor/ driveway. While you are tightening it down, make sure you keep running your hand around the oil filter cap/ housing to make sure its flush, and that the o-ring is not bulging out. If it does start to come out, loosen the cap and try again. As for the drain plug, alot of people over-tighten them and make it very hard to get off the next time it needs an oil change. Be careful using the 13mm because sometimes it will strip. If it does start to strip- I believe it is a 1/2 in socket that I use instead, hammer it on there and use a breaker bar to break it loose. Good luck!
#14
I used to work at a JiffyLube waaaaYYYY back in the day. And I would have to agree. The oil change technicians there while they receive training, I bet they really do not care how tight your oil plug is... And most likely they are using their calibrated elbow. So sure maybe the first 15 times no issues, but maybe time 16 and 17 you start noticing a drip and then time 18 they are telling you your drain plug hole is stripped/worn...
I believe if torqued properly you should never need a new drain plug.. I would trust a Mini technician calibrated elbow over some guy who probablely doesnt have to take a drug test and gets paid alot less...
I believe if torqued properly you should never need a new drain plug.. I would trust a Mini technician calibrated elbow over some guy who probablely doesnt have to take a drug test and gets paid alot less...
Yes sir, I cant tell you how many cars come into our dealer after having oil services done elsewhere... Even after years of being a MINI technician, I STILL almost always use my torque wrench for oil drain plugs. Some of the guys laugh at me, but hey, I would much rather be safe than sorry! On the R50-53 (older MINI) we ALWAYS replace the drain plug. Every oil change it gets a new one. With the newer style engines, we only replace the crush washer. But every time, it NEEDS a new crush washer as per MINI instructions.
#15
there is one bump in many of the posts here
do you think that your MINI dealer has their highly trained tech' doing your oil change?
Or might it be one of the 'kids' they are training'
Having used 'quick change' places for a long time over the years, the only time I had a PROBLEM with an oil change was AT the dealer ..... oopps ... we forgot to put in the oil.
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missed this one:
Yes sir, I cant tell you how many cars come into our dealer after having oil services done elsewhere... Even after years of being a MINI technician, I STILL almost always use my torque wrench
do you think that your MINI dealer has their highly trained tech' doing your oil change?
Or might it be one of the 'kids' they are training'
Having used 'quick change' places for a long time over the years, the only time I had a PROBLEM with an oil change was AT the dealer ..... oopps ... we forgot to put in the oil.
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missed this one:
Yes sir, I cant tell you how many cars come into our dealer after having oil services done elsewhere... Even after years of being a MINI technician, I STILL almost always use my torque wrench
#16
What's your experience getting oil changes at local mechanics and tune-up shops? Any special parts or special oil required?
I know, with my wife's Land Rover, you have to have a special ($24.95) oil filter, which very few places (and not too many auto parts stores) have.
Or can I just drive into Jiffy Lube for a quick oil change?
I know, with my wife's Land Rover, you have to have a special ($24.95) oil filter, which very few places (and not too many auto parts stores) have.
Or can I just drive into Jiffy Lube for a quick oil change?
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Val
#18
How long is TOO long?
What is the preferred oil change frequency period?
We have a 2012 CMS4 and changed oil for the first time at 9000 miles. The dealer tells me 15000 miles or once a year is what they recommend since it has the synthetic oil. I have decided to change twice a year instead of just once. What does everyone else say???
We have a 2012 CMS4 and changed oil for the first time at 9000 miles. The dealer tells me 15000 miles or once a year is what they recommend since it has the synthetic oil. I have decided to change twice a year instead of just once. What does everyone else say???
#20
#21
Sad state of affairs if you have no faith or trust in your dealership. I expect that when I bring my MINI into the dealer for the free (actually not free, lets just say pre-paid) oil change and service that the work will be done right. If not, I will lose confidence in the company as a whole and likely look at other car companies when it comes time to trade.
Dealerships are a reflection of the company. If BMW allows shoddy work to come out of its authorized service facilities then what does that say about what's coming off the factory floor?
Dealerships are a reflection of the company. If BMW allows shoddy work to come out of its authorized service facilities then what does that say about what's coming off the factory floor?
#22
What is the preferred oil change frequency period?
We have a 2012 CMS4 and changed oil for the first time at 9000 miles. The dealer tells me 15000 miles or once a year is what they recommend since it has the synthetic oil. I have decided to change twice a year instead of just once. What does everyone else say???
We have a 2012 CMS4 and changed oil for the first time at 9000 miles. The dealer tells me 15000 miles or once a year is what they recommend since it has the synthetic oil. I have decided to change twice a year instead of just once. What does everyone else say???
#23
My (first) Mini has not arrived yet, so I'm just thinking ahead. For me it's not a matter of not trusting the dealer service dept. Sometimes it's not convenient to drop my car off at the dealer for the day, just for an oil change. Often, it's much easier to drop by a local mechanic or quick-lube or Walmart on a Saturday morning. I'm in and out in 30 minutes or less. Even though oil changes are included for the first 36k, I may want to change my oil more frequently than MINI recommends (and will give me for free).
I have found with my Land Rover, that this doesn't work well. Places often don't have the funky LR oil filter, and sometimes they don't have the right oil.
Not a problem with my Infiniti. I can take it anywhere and get a quality oil change, quick and cheap.
I was just wondering what the situation was with MINIs.
I have found with my Land Rover, that this doesn't work well. Places often don't have the funky LR oil filter, and sometimes they don't have the right oil.
Not a problem with my Infiniti. I can take it anywhere and get a quality oil change, quick and cheap.
I was just wondering what the situation was with MINIs.
#24
I plan to bring my 2013 into the dealership for them to give it the once-over, check for recalls and service bullitens and put it up on the lift to take a good look underneath. I'll do it at 5,000 miles. I don't expect anything to be wrong, just want a courtesy inspection. At 10,000 miles I'll have them do a full service.
My Infiniti offered "Free Scheduled Maintenance" for the first 30k miles. Which is nice, except that the car doesn't required a whole lot of maintentance, other than oil changes every 7,500 miles (so that's 4 free oil changes) and maybe a couple of tire rotations.
I realize that MINI's (BMW's) program is more comprehensive. Being new to MINI world, I'm just trying to find out what I have to look forward to.
#25
Question . . . does the "Free Maintenance" program allow you to bring your car in whenever you want, or is it only for scheduled service.
My Infiniti offered "Free Scheduled Maintenance" for the first 30k miles. Which is nice, except that the car doesn't required a whole lot of maintentance, other than oil changes every 7,500 miles (so that's 4 free oil changes) and maybe a couple of tire rotations.
I realize that MINI's (BMW's) program is more comprehensive. Being new to MINI world, I'm just trying to find out what I have to look forward to.
My Infiniti offered "Free Scheduled Maintenance" for the first 30k miles. Which is nice, except that the car doesn't required a whole lot of maintentance, other than oil changes every 7,500 miles (so that's 4 free oil changes) and maybe a couple of tire rotations.
I realize that MINI's (BMW's) program is more comprehensive. Being new to MINI world, I'm just trying to find out what I have to look forward to.