thanks for sharing

 

Yikes! That makes me not want to wait for that recommended 15,000 mile oil change.

 

You should post that at http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ to get opinions there from the oil geeks.

 

+1; I suspect many of those elements noted are part and parcel of modern oil additive packages that are there for a reason.

 

Why? I don't really get the point of this analysis

 

I'm no expert but from what I understand this report shows different elements found in the oil removed from a Mini just after the break in period. Those elements are not good things to be found in oil...most of it is probably from engine break in....but they could find their way into your engine leading to unnecessary wear and expensive repairs down the road.

It really signifies just how important that first oil change is and quite possibly the importance of a magnetic oil plug to attract this debris in the future.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...please. And this is in the simplest of terms....my only language. ;-)

 

+1
After further adoo dumped mine at 2800 peace of mind.

 

No scientific reason, really. Just that it's sort of scary that there's a significant amount of metal from the new engine all scraping about for 15,000 miles.

 

The analysis is designed to look for wear materials in the oil. Iron, Aluminum, Silicon and Copper are the 4 primary elements to look for from a wear standpoint. (Copper is bearing wear, Iron is steel & iron casting wear, Aluminum & Silicon are from aluminum casting wear) All 4 are relatively low. The Phosphorus, Calcium, Magnesium, Sodium and Zinc are all probably from the detergent package in the oil. The Moly, and Boron are probably part of the lubrication additives. All look OK to me.

None of the results would worry me at this stage.

Mark

 

I posted it on the BTOG - we'll see what they say.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...6&#Post2287976



Here's a Blackstone report and BTOG comments from a MINI with 250,000 miles on the car - 25,000 miles on the oil change:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-analysis.html

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...48#Post2204348

 

I'm not overly worried about the results either as it is the first oil change after the break in period.

The O/A has to be analyzed over quite a few oil changes as well as being compared to other similar engines.

I don't know how many 1.6L turbo Mini owners are submitting oil for analysis when they change their oil let alone submit it to Blackstone Labs. The more the better.

Only thing that raised my eyebrows somewhat was the trace amount fuel in the oil and the low viscosity having only 1212 miles on the engine.

I've dumped a lot of oil in my day owning diesel engines in my daily drivers and will say that when I dumped the oil in the CM I found it to be extremely hot at operating temperature in comparison.

Being there is only about 9 pints of oil in the crankcase I would imagine that the high temperature and trace amount of fuel could account for the low viscosity (or sheer).

I'll change the oil again with 3K on it and run another analysis and post it here.

Thanks to MCS Fever for posting the report on BTOG. I hope you post his reply on this thread as I look forward to seeing what they say about it.

Btw, I paid $6.25/qt at the dealer for the Mini Castrol Syntec 5w-30 oil. I thought that was a pretty good price.

Best regards to all.

Hobie 44610

 

Fuel should burn off at operating temp, but I don't know what they mean by trace. On my 2008 Duramax they showed 1.5% with <2.0% normal on the report. I had 10,000 miles on that oil in an 8 month period. It has a diesel particulate filter and I run 5% Bio-Diesel the max GM will allow because of fuel possible dilution with Bio-Diesel.

I posted the BTOG thread link above I started on your MINI, again here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...6&#Post2287976

 

Thanks.

You got a dooty max, eh ? LOL

The CM is my little lady's driver. I'm driving a modified, lifted 2005, 6.0L diesel F-250 and if you know anything about the 6.0 it's known for oil sheer plus a whole lot of other issues. Dumps a lot of fuel into the oil on start up. So far no troubles with the engine.

Drive it like you stole it, I always say. Gotta blow the carbon out.

 

Not too dooty - That DPF stops the stink.

 

So should one always change the oil after the break-in period ( I have a little over 3k on mine). I assume the dealers would frown on that?

 

Draw your own conclusions and due what makes you sleep better. I changed it at 6 months and 5,000 miles. It's coming up on 1 year now and 10,000 miles..... the stealership can do the "free" one then. I plan on 6 month intervals, she's a little grocery chaser so I feel all those short trips are hard on things.

 

The dealer will not frown on you if you pay them to do an extra oil change.
They will shrug and say, "It's not really needed, but if it makes you feel better, we'll take your money."

If you do it on your own, they'll say, "Make sure to use a MINI-approved high quality synthetic oil. See you at 15,000."

 

That's correct. I purchased 14 qts of Mini/Castrol 5W-30 @ $6.25/qt. from my local dealer. Purchased oil filters from Prestige Mini on e-bay. Keep the receipts and the UOA is good to back up for your own oil changes. Cheap insurance and it lets you know whats going on inside that little engine.

Spoke to my marine diesel mechanic about my first UOA and he also found it odd and was interested to know why there was a trace amount of fuel (gasoline) in the oil on a new engine.

Be interesting to see the next UOA. Going to dump the oil with 3K on it and see what the results are. Will post them here.

I guess this really doesn't matter to those who lease their vehicles or intend to trade them in after a few years. I purchased outright and as all my toys, I keep them all well maintained.

Best regards to all.

Hobie 44610