http://www.motoringfile.com/2010/08/...retrofit-poll/

 

Just put a roll of quarters behind the gas pedal. That should make the torque more manageable.

 

and it only costs $10!

 

The torque steer doesn't bother me as much as the "bump"steer,and i don't think a software update can fix that.

 

I don't think a software update can fix actual torque steer either.

 

How many of you would get this done if it is in fact offered for free?

 

I would want to know how the torque steer is being cured by software. Are the brakes involved as they are in limiting slip?

 

Very good question!
What could be an alternative method to "cure" this via sotfware? Cutting power all together?

 

What do you mean by bump steer?

 

toe-in change as the suspension is compressed.

(WestonJCW, correct me if this isn't what you meant).

 

Exactly,if you hit a bump,hole or even some highway joints you better grab that steering wheel very tight because it'll jolt and change the car's trajectory.
Just a nuisance,but could be an issue with someone not familiar with the car.

 

Ahhh. I always considered that part of the torque steer problem of a front wheel drive car. But I see your distinction.

Either way two hands on the wheel of a JCW under acceleration is a good idea.

Thanks for the info.

 

correct. Just learn how to modulate the throttle.

 

I think the only way to adjust torque steer using software is to adjust the LDS so that it moves the power to the other wheel, or to use the break on the torque wheel to reduce the torque.

I have a 22mm rear sway bar... and maybe I am nutz, but I think the sway bar has played a big part in not having torque steer because the car is stiffer and does not get tossed around when the torque builds up. The wheel may skip a little bit but the car does not want to pull to the right. I rarely feel the torque steer and I am sure I would qualify as a spirited driver.

 

I added the JCW suspension, JCW front strut brace, Racing Dynamics rear strut brace, and Yokohama Advan Sport (non runflat) tires.

The lower and stiffer suspension, with reduced body flex from the strut braces, and stickier tire compound has all added to a significant reduction of torque steer from the stock JCW.

At this point torque steer is hardly noticable but still rears it's ugly head occasionaly when the road surface gets uneven or very bumpy.

I'm also not so convinced that controlling torque steer electonically will solve the issue. I would probably not add the retrofit mod (if it is offered), unless I read positive reviews in the forums, from drivers like you.

I would prefer MINI to again offer a mechanical limited slip differential instead of that EDLC voodoo.

 

I like torque steer.

 

Do you also enjoy root canals?
Just kidding.
I don't care much for it,specially now that i'm teaching my 15 yo dauhter to drive manual.
She only wants to drive the JCW and complains when she has to drive my wife's Q5!

 

"What could be an alternative method to "cure" this via sotfware? "

Undoing whatever DSC is doing to create "torque steer." It appeared to be cutting the throttle on mine.

Some "S" drivers experience with turning DSC off:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...que-steer.html

 

If you don't allow the steering wheel to take a different angle after hitting the bump, it's the same trajectory but offset from the original...

 

http://www.motoringfile.com/2010/10/...steer-fix-r56/

Shouldn't it be free?

 

When you bought windows XP, did that say it includes free update to windows 7? It's just a software update....


Be nice if they let us have it but don't count on it being free if a mechanic has to touch your MINI to retrofit it.

 

I don't get why some MINIs do it more than others. My 2007 would get TS (especially after it was tuned). My JCW almost never has TQ and I'm running a LOT more torque than normal. I have the standard suspension and no suspension mods. I'm another who doesn't drive like grandma.

 

I would wonder if we don't automatically compensate and it doesn't register as something that we did or remember?

 

My JCW has plenty of torque steer, but after years of owning many FWD cars, I never considered it a "fault" just a characteristic. Much like older Porsche Club devotees wax nostalgically about learning the skills to drive an older 911 with its trailing throttle oversteer, learning to accept and compensate for torque steer on a front-driver is just part of the driver's tools package. It can be somewhat annoying on wet or other low-traction surfaces, but mastering it's not that hard. I would consider the software retrofit as long as it doesn't affect peak power.

 

I enjoy the torque steer, Especially with the tune.

As an ex tech my POV on this is...


The more technology and features you have, the more problems.