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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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if you are on _1 then _4 will also work. that fixes a bug that will trigger a drive malfunction when the TMAP bypass is plugged in.
How will I know if it doesn't work? Does it not download and give an error code?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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Should I just download _4 to be safe or should I wait and see if I get a malfunction? lol
 

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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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What's the difference between wastegate 0 and 2? What exactly does the fuel loop do?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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I have some wires exposed... I'm thinking using electrical tape or some kind of shrink wrap, any suggestions?

Does anyone use zip ties to secure the harness or do you guys let it stay free?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
I have some wires exposed... I'm thinking using electrical tape or some kind of shrink wrap, any suggestions?

Does anyone use zip ties to secure the harness or do you guys let it stay free?
e-tape fine. i have mine zip tied in some areas just to look neat and be secured.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
e-tape fine. i have mine zip tied in some areas just to look neat and be secured.
You keep yours in the battery box? Do the wires get pinched?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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You keep yours in the battery box? Do the wires get pinched?
no, i told you i used velcro on mine.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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Please take your discussion to PM's. The thread is getting cluttered with the back and forth.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Anyone experience turbo lag and does it take a couple miles to adjust?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Berger stage 1 Beta...Oh He'll Yeah

Elaborate.. At what RPM..
 
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
Elaborate.. At what RPM..
From 2k-3500, I put the stage 1 on before and it worked right away and I had to take it off and now that I put it on again I experienced some pretty bad turbo lag; however, once it kicked in 4K+ the mf took off lol. I think it's better now that I drove it for 200mi but it's lightly raining here and anytime I can get the turbo to spoil in second the tires just spin
 
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 07:55 AM
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if your'e happy now great, but if you feel there is an issue, your best bet is to pull logs and send to Terry. He'll see what values you're pulling and recommend changes. with the stage 1, he's said himself that many cars can have different readings. even on the JB4 hes' still waiting on logs. i'm hoping this week i'll be able to deliver that to him so he can continue to modify the settings accordingly
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:09 PM
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Is there any video showing how to install the kit? I'm still not quite sure if I can get the job done after reading the online document, which still makes me hesitate to get one.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Is there any video showing how to install the kit? I'm still not quite sure if I can get the job done after reading the online document, which still makes me hesitate to get one.
stage1 is a joke. really. what's making you nervous? you'll be done in 10 minutes.
JB4 is more challenging as you need to poke a hole to snake the OBD2 cable inside the car.

let me/us know any issues and we'll help out.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
stage1 is a joke. really. what's making you nervous? you'll be done in 10 minutes.
JB4 is more challenging as you need to poke a hole to snake the OBD2 cable inside the car.

let me/us know any issues and we'll help out.


Step 1, the first picture shows what it looks like after removing the two bolts and air duct? I think the second picture shows which bolts to look for and the first picture shows what it will look like after removing those two bolts?

MAP work is easy.

Are there two TMAPs as I can see there are two red circles? I see there are two rainbow plugs. Use the same way as the brown plugs? But from the picture, those two red circles are far from each other.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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facing the car, the MAP sensor is on the left and TMAP on the right.

page1 - car with air duct in place. remove 2 screws
page2, picture 2- 2 circles depict where the screws were (note: if you look above the 1st circle, there's your MAP sensor
page2, picture 2 - close up of map sensor. unplug and put the bypass in place.
page3, picture 2 - lower circle is the placement of the TMAP sensor. this is AFTER you've already unplugged it and put the bypass i place. the 2nd (upper) circle is the other half of the bypassed TMAP sensor. if you look closely, both circle have wires that join at the 3-way intersection of wires. that's the burger tune wiring harness.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
facing the car, the MAP sensor is on the left and TMAP on the right.

page1 - car with air duct in place. remove 2 screws
page2, picture 2- 2 circles depict where the screws were (note: if you look above the 1st circle, there's your MAP sensor
page2, picture 2 - close up of map sensor. unplug and put the bypass in place.
page3, picture 2 - lower circle is the placement of the TMAP sensor. this is AFTER you've already unplugged it and put the bypass i place. the 2nd (upper) circle is the other half of the bypassed TMAP sensor. if you look closely, both circle have wires that join at the 3-way intersection of wires. that's the burger tune wiring harness.
There are two TMAP sensors?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hardy616
There are two TMAP sensors?
i think you're not understanding what the burger tuning kit does.

when you unplug the MAP sensor plug, you have a MAP male plug and a MAP female plug. the burger tune harness has the same thing. plug your MAP male to the Burger MAP female and the MAP female to the Burger MAP male.

do the same for TMAP. so yes, your 1 MAP sensor turns into "2" because the Burger is plugged in. same for the TMAP.

just buy it and you'll understand. again...this is a 10 minute install...probably 5 minutes.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
i think you're not understanding what the burger tuning kit does.

when you unplug the MAP sensor plug, you have a MAP male plug and a MAP female plug. the burger tune harness has the same thing. plug your MAP male to the Burger MAP female and the MAP female to the Burger MAP male.

do the same for TMAP. so yes, your 1 MAP sensor turns into "2" because the Burger is plugged in. same for the TMAP.

just buy it and you'll understand. again...this is a 10 minute install...probably 5 minutes.
The most confusing part for me was on page 3, there are two circles, which is why I thought there were two TMAP sensors. But from your explanations, looks like one circle is the original TMAP sensor plug, the other circle is the bypass plug? Basically, all the work is about bypassing the MAP and TMAP sensors?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hardy616
The most confusing part for me was on page 3, there are two circles, which is why I thought there were two TMAP sensors. But from your explanations, looks like one circle is the original TMAP sensor plug, the other circle is the bypass plug? Basically, all the work is about bypassing the MAP and TMAP sensors?
Yep. That's all it does.

When you want to go higher in boost, you add the flex fuel adapter.. The flex fuel adapter taps into the fuel rail.
And then the jb4 adds an obd2 port to all the above.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
Yep. That's all it does.

When you want to go higher in boost, you add the flex fuel adapter.. The flex fuel adapter taps into the fuel rail.
And then the jb4 adds an obd2 port to all the above.
Thanks for all the explanations! I will try stage 1 next month. :-p
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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When will a non-Beta production version be available? I am currently breaking in my new F56 B38 and I might be interested in getting this kit sometime in the future.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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When will a non-Beta production version be available? I am currently breaking in my new F56 B38 and I might be interested in getting this kit sometime in the future.
disclaimer: anything you do is your responsibility

my opinion: why it says beta is beyond me. probably because there will always be continued tweaking. like i said in another thread, terry provides a good amount of support and the active forum helps other users make tweaks to their unit.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcoPolo
disclaimer: anything you do is your responsibility

my opinion: why it says beta is beyond me. probably because there will always be continued tweaking. like i said in another thread, terry provides a good amount of support and the active forum helps other users make tweaks to their unit.
I wasn't overly thrilled with the support. I got more help on forums from knowledgeable members. Don't rely on Terry's help. If you buy and plug and play then you shouldn't have an issue but it's when you start changing stuff that you go into uncharted territory. Everyone can always offer an opinion but nothing is ever perfect lol.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by honderpilot
I wasn't overly thrilled with the support. I got more help on forums from knowledgeable members. Don't rely on Terry's help. If you buy and plug and play then you shouldn't have an issue but it's when you start changing stuff that you go into uncharted territory. Everyone can always offer an opinion but nothing is ever perfect lol.
terry has been very responsive to me. sorry that you had an unfortunate experience.
 
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