F55/F56 Clutch and gearbox... Normal?
Clutch and gearbox... Normal?
Hey guys,
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
Hey guys,
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
I don't feel anything in my clutch, I don't think that's normal. In regards to reverse, as long as I'm not moving, reverse is easy. If I'm even slightly rolling forward it seems much harder.
Hey guys,
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
Assuming this is a new car, and you are unfamiliar with manual trannies, and you seem overly concerned, would it be so hard for you to take it back to the dealer and just ask them to have someone else drive it for their reaction? Even have a friend who is manual-friendly drive it for a reaction.
Reverse gear always requires a bit more effort to engage it. This is good, as you know you cannot accidently put it into reverse without feeling that resistance. It should not require a lot of effort, and that depends on your definition of "a lot".
Reverse gear always requires a bit more effort to engage it. This is good, as you know you cannot accidently put it into reverse without feeling that resistance. It should not require a lot of effort, and that depends on your definition of "a lot".
Assuming this is a new car, and you are unfamiliar with manual trannies, and you seem overly concerned, would it be so hard for you to take it back to the dealer and just ask them to have someone else drive it for their reaction? Even have a friend who is manual-friendly drive it for a reaction. Reverse gear always requires a bit more effort to engage it. This is good, as you know you cannot accidently put it into reverse without feeling that resistance. It should not require a lot of effort, and that depends on your definition of "a lot".
Last edited by honderpilot; Jun 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM.
As above, reverse is a little obscure for a reason.
When you depress the clutch pedal it disengages the clutch from the flywheel.
There is a difference between engaged and disengaged.
You may feel that difference in the pedal.
If something broke in the manual, you would know it!
If you are very concerned after a few more days, have a Mini Techie drive it.
My lady is getting used to her new manual and found 5 days of
playing was all it took to become comfortable with shifting.
NOW she wants to get really smooth.
Play it like an instrument, it is a very easy and forgiving gearbox.
When you depress the clutch pedal it disengages the clutch from the flywheel.
There is a difference between engaged and disengaged.
You may feel that difference in the pedal.
If something broke in the manual, you would know it!
If you are very concerned after a few more days, have a Mini Techie drive it.
My lady is getting used to her new manual and found 5 days of
playing was all it took to become comfortable with shifting.
NOW she wants to get really smooth.
Play it like an instrument, it is a very easy and forgiving gearbox.
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Several times now when cruising at 40-50 mph, when I pressed the clutch in the pedal felt a little "dead" or like I was wearing a really soft spongy shoe (which i wasn't). Also, the pedal felt really soft at first coming from my R56 but now it seams to be getting firmer and when I drive barefoot, I feel a little bit of roughness when pressing the pedal. Will take it in to the dealer someday.
I know what sensation you're talking about. It's like a slight vibration when you push the clutch in. I didn't feel this in my R56 but I don't think this should be an issue. Just in case though I would bring this up with the dealer so it's on record.
The thing that's bothering me with my manual is that every once in a while the shifter refuses to fully engage a gear and will pop out of gear suddenly... I've never had this problem with any other manuals... I think I read about someone else having this issue.
The thing that's bothering me with my manual is that every once in a while the shifter refuses to fully engage a gear and will pop out of gear suddenly... I've never had this problem with any other manuals... I think I read about someone else having this issue.
"The thing that's bothering me with my manual is that every once in a while the shifter refuses to fully engage a gear and will pop out of gear suddenly..." above
This is the second comment about gear popping out.
We'll need to keep an eye on this, especially since there are so few manuals
shifting around.
This is the second comment about gear popping out.
We'll need to keep an eye on this, especially since there are so few manuals
shifting around.
Last edited by Mrdi; Jun 17, 2014 at 07:04 PM.
The thing that's bothering me with my manual is that every once in a while the shifter refuses to fully engage a gear and will pop out of gear suddenly...
This is the second comment about gear popping out.
We'll need to keep an eye on this, especially since there are so few manuals
shifting around.
This is the second comment about gear popping out.
We'll need to keep an eye on this, especially since there are so few manuals
shifting around.
The OP didn't, but RiBi mentioned it...
I know what sensation you're talking about. It's like a slight vibration when you push the clutch in. I didn't feel this in my R56 but I don't think this should be an issue. Just in case though I would bring this up with the dealer so it's on record. The thing that's bothering me with my manual is that every once in a while the shifter refuses to fully engage a gear and will pop out of gear suddenly... I've never had this problem with any other manuals... I think I read about someone else having this issue.
Side note about the "so few manuals":
I pulled into a valet and stepped out and the valet's eyes lit up and his exact words were "wow! Finally, a real Mini Cooper: manual" not slashing the auto guys; we do all share the pleasure of a fantastic car
but I do love the third pedal.
My clutch is squeaking every time i select a gear, its been back to the dealer and they think its the selector fork and the gear box will have to come out to fix it not good on a car thats only 10 weeks old
Hey guys,
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
When I put my car into first and leave the clutch 100% depressed I feel spinning or some sort of motion through the clutch pedal. Is this normal? This is my first manual car and I know how to shift and drive so it's not like I'm abusing it and dropping the clutch and what not. I also shifted into fourth today and depressed the clutch for the shift and felt another odd sensation in my foot, no sounds or anything just a funky sensation like, I'm afraid to even say, part of the something broke off inside the transmission. I COULD BE TOTALLY OVER REACTING. I just fear the worse from having seen people completely shatter their clutch plates and destroy their cars. Again this is daily casual driving in normal mode, not full accelerations or even breaking 4k rpm- still in break in period.
Last thing: is it just me or is shifting into reverse difficult? I feel like I have to use an unusual amount of force to pull it to the left. Again, is this normal?
Thanks for the help!
So I agree- nothing to worry about, but keep an eye on it. And I will too when my own car arrives.
=)
Jeff
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