F55/F56 What features are you getting?
#52
Hello,
Lets be honest here with one another.
The later Model Minis have never really been what I think most working class people thinks is reasonable.
That being said the 2014 is nothing more than a continuation with even more (Expensive-Options).
Mine is I think $37,000.00 Plus.
I sure am not going to Post here that I think that is a "Reasonably" priced small car.
But .........
The wife and I both want the 2014 and we want it our way.
So, it cost what it cost and if we or anyone else does not wish to pay that then there are other choices in the Market place.
I'm thinking in our case we will be very satisfied with this new 2014 regardless of the MSRP.
T.
Lets be honest here with one another.
The later Model Minis have never really been what I think most working class people thinks is reasonable.
That being said the 2014 is nothing more than a continuation with even more (Expensive-Options).
Mine is I think $37,000.00 Plus.
I sure am not going to Post here that I think that is a "Reasonably" priced small car.
But .........
The wife and I both want the 2014 and we want it our way.
So, it cost what it cost and if we or anyone else does not wish to pay that then there are other choices in the Market place.
I'm thinking in our case we will be very satisfied with this new 2014 regardless of the MSRP.
T.
#53
tigerhonaker:
I don't disagree with what you are saying, although I think because of MINI's pricing scheme pricing can vary to what some working class people would think reasonable ($25k for a new car is less than average) to some MINI's such as the Paceman going over the $40k mark (which would cause me to pause as that is in BMW territory). One of the beauties of the mark is to spec it the way you want, sort of. I come from a more minimalistic perspective and pricing my MINI S at about $27k. My main gripe in my previous post was the bait-and-switch of the paddle shifters, priced at $250 but in reality because you also have to order the JCW steering wheel it is $250 more. I find this technique insulting to buyers and would rather be able to choose more specifically what I want. It's a bit like cable TV where you can't choose your channels, but rather a grouping.
I don't disagree with what you are saying, although I think because of MINI's pricing scheme pricing can vary to what some working class people would think reasonable ($25k for a new car is less than average) to some MINI's such as the Paceman going over the $40k mark (which would cause me to pause as that is in BMW territory). One of the beauties of the mark is to spec it the way you want, sort of. I come from a more minimalistic perspective and pricing my MINI S at about $27k. My main gripe in my previous post was the bait-and-switch of the paddle shifters, priced at $250 but in reality because you also have to order the JCW steering wheel it is $250 more. I find this technique insulting to buyers and would rather be able to choose more specifically what I want. It's a bit like cable TV where you can't choose your channels, but rather a grouping.
#54
tigerhonaker:
I don't disagree with what you are saying, although I think because of MINI's pricing scheme pricing can vary to what some working class people would think reasonable ($25k for a new car is less than average) to some MINI's such as the Paceman going over the $40k mark (which would cause me to pause as that is in BMW territory). One of the beauties of the mark is to spec it the way you want, sort of. I come from a more minimalistic perspective and pricing my MINI S at about $27k. My main gripe in my previous post was the bait-and-switch of the paddle shifters, priced at $250 but in reality because you also have to order the JCW steering wheel it is $250 more. I find this technique insulting to buyers and would rather be able to choose more specifically what I want. It's a bit like cable TV where you can't choose your channels, but rather a grouping.
I don't disagree with what you are saying, although I think because of MINI's pricing scheme pricing can vary to what some working class people would think reasonable ($25k for a new car is less than average) to some MINI's such as the Paceman going over the $40k mark (which would cause me to pause as that is in BMW territory). One of the beauties of the mark is to spec it the way you want, sort of. I come from a more minimalistic perspective and pricing my MINI S at about $27k. My main gripe in my previous post was the bait-and-switch of the paddle shifters, priced at $250 but in reality because you also have to order the JCW steering wheel it is $250 more. I find this technique insulting to buyers and would rather be able to choose more specifically what I want. It's a bit like cable TV where you can't choose your channels, but rather a grouping.
It was the same sort of thing with my Bullitt Mustang.
I wanted the HID headlights.
I found out quickly to have the HID headlights I had to also order the Security System.
So the HID headlights in reality were not all that great a deal once you added in the optional Security System.
I have learned it is just what it is and try to make the best of it even though I like you and so many others don't like it.
T.
#56
I quickly understood the beauty of customizing your factory build. But I, too, agree that some of the options are a bit expensive. But you can choose to forgo some of those options if you have a target MSRP. IMO the fact that the MINI is now up to par with BMW quality/features takes away some of the pricing sting. And also consider that the MINI includes a Boot to Bonnet No Cost Maintenance Program.
#57
I quickly understood the beauty of customizing your factory build. But I, too, agree that some of the options are a bit expensive. But you can choose to forgo some of those options if you have a target MSRP. IMO the fact that the MINI is now up to par with BMW quality/features takes away some of the pricing sting. And also consider that the MINI includes a Boot to Bonnet No Cost Maintenance Program.
#61
#62
In our case we ordered the 2014 MCS with the "Optional" 18" wheels and tires.
So No-Spare ........
On our 2011 MCS I put a new set of Michelin Non-Run-Flat tires.
This time I will just run with what comes on it with the 18" tires and wheels.
Terry
#63
i'm a run-flat newbie...are they really THAT bad? note i live in NYC and moving to Miami in the fall.
#64
I had run flats on my 2011 MCS and thought they rode pretty hard. Also if you do get a flat they are nearly impossible to fix and relatively expensive to replace. If I get a 2014 S I don't want the run flats, but don't want to go without a spare.
#65
I had RFs on my 2007 until they wore out (about 30k). Replaced with non-RFs and they ride better, less bumpy feeling for sure, and last longer and cost half as much and handle as good. You can get runflats fixed like any other tire, not the sidewall of course. I carry a pump and fixit goo/repair kit/AAA. Spare will take up a lot of boot space. Some go with a compact spare in a case. 18" RFs you may want to visit your dentist before you take possession lol.
#66
The simple reason is they have a Very-Stiff-Sidewall.
That is why one can drive with them Flat at a very reduced speed until you can hopefully reach a place for assistance.
I have the Premium Triple AAA service that provides Towing etc. if you need it.
So with out existing 2011 MCS I had the Run-Flats taken off and replaced with Michelin NON Run-Flats.
Much smoother ride and if I needed assistance with a flat I was going to utilize my Triple AAA service.
This time with the ordered 2014 MCS with the optional 18" wheels and tires I am "Not" going to change the tires out.
I also added the item #223 Dynamic Damper Control for the suspension so I can adjust it if need be.
T.
#67
Never had RFs, but have not heard many positive things about them. I chose 16 inchers and the Dynamic Damper Control hoping to limit tooth rattling.
#68
One thing for sure in my experience is that running non inflated changes the handling for the worse. The suspension is designed to work with runflat tires. The regular tires tend to roll more when you are drifting...frankly even with 17" rims the handling is softer...but adding a stiffer sway bar will greatly improve this.
#69
One thing for sure in my experience is that running non inflated changes the handling for the worse. The suspension is designed to work with runflat tires. The regular tires tend to roll more when you are drifting...frankly even with 17" rims the handling is softer...but adding a stiffer sway bar will greatly improve this.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ECSTuning
Interior/Exterior Products
0
09-29-2015 12:17 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Classifieds
0
09-29-2015 12:16 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
09-29-2015 12:11 PM
Emnotek
Vendor Announcements
0
09-29-2015 07:37 AM