Electrical R53 NCS Expert Guide Additional Info
#103
Are there any proficient coders here? I'm trying to understand the process (order of events) for coding multiple modules. For example, I want make several changes in the BC1 Module (locks, windows, DRL). I also want to make KOMBI changes (On-Board Computer active).
Do I need to approach this as two separate operations? I know that I need to read the BC1 TRC file --> Load to NCS Dummy --> Make Changes --> Export from NCS Dummy as .MAN file --> Write .MAN fileto Module with NCS Expert. Is there a way to code both the KMB and BC1 together? Apologies if this is hard to follow.
Do I need to approach this as two separate operations? I know that I need to read the BC1 TRC file --> Load to NCS Dummy --> Make Changes --> Export from NCS Dummy as .MAN file --> Write .MAN fileto Module with NCS Expert. Is there a way to code both the KMB and BC1 together? Apologies if this is hard to follow.
#104
I am just a hack. I will recommend you do the module one at a time, and may be one change at a time. I am quite sure you cannot change more than one module.
Always be very careful and save a copy of the old. I create a new folder for each change and comment in detail what I change.
I only use NCS Dummy to help interpret the meaning of the entries as in addition to being in Deutsch most entries are not apparent what they are for.
Also do connect a battery charger to the battery or else there is stability issues especially in low ambient.
Always be very careful and save a copy of the old. I create a new folder for each change and comment in detail what I change.
I only use NCS Dummy to help interpret the meaning of the entries as in addition to being in Deutsch most entries are not apparent what they are for.
Also do connect a battery charger to the battery or else there is stability issues especially in low ambient.
#105
You're saving copies of the TRC file or the MAN? Once the .TRC file is edited, NCS dummy exports as .MAN.
Good tip about the battery charger.
I found this pretty helpful: http://codinge90.com/ncs-expert-basic-understanding/
Good tip about the battery charger.
I found this pretty helpful: http://codinge90.com/ncs-expert-basic-understanding/
#106
You're saving copies of the TRC file or the MAN? Once the .TRC file is edited, NCS dummy exports as .MAN.
Good tip about the battery charger.
I found this pretty helpful: http://codinge90.com/ncs-expert-basic-understanding/
Good tip about the battery charger.
I found this pretty helpful: http://codinge90.com/ncs-expert-basic-understanding/
I backup the trace files and give each chance a folder. I documented what I changed in a readme.txt file. The readme file has a dated running list of changes I made.
#107
Sorry for raking up an old thread, but I'm kinda out on a limp here.
I've got a pre-facelift R53 with speedo in the center. Just bought some dual clocks for 15 bucks to try and make it work.
Needles work fine and the screens as well, but I just can get the lights to match up. When just pluging the new clocks in none of the lights work (ABS, ACS, cruise etc.) I've programmed the KMB to tacho_dzm_doppel_display so at least some lights work now. But for some reason some lights still don't match up as you can see in this video:
My car is a left hand drive car with km/h speedo. The dual cluster I bought is from a right hand drive facelift car (I think because of the option in the speedo to switch to the clock) with MPH speedo. I'm thinking the fact that it's a facelift cluster on a pre-facelift car or that it's a MPH speedo on a KM/h car is causing the problems but I'm not sure.
Please let me know if someone has found out something about this.
I've got a pre-facelift R53 with speedo in the center. Just bought some dual clocks for 15 bucks to try and make it work.
Needles work fine and the screens as well, but I just can get the lights to match up. When just pluging the new clocks in none of the lights work (ABS, ACS, cruise etc.) I've programmed the KMB to tacho_dzm_doppel_display so at least some lights work now. But for some reason some lights still don't match up as you can see in this video:
Please let me know if someone has found out something about this.
#108
mph or kph should not matter . I have a pre face USA car that I brought to Canada , I change the displays from mph to kph without any issues . I did have some issues with the lights also during programming . I think I had to go into the bc5 and the kmb to get the proper operation of everything
#109
mph or kph should not matter . I have a pre face USA car that I brought to Canada , I change the displays from mph to kph without any issues . I did have some issues with the lights also during programming . I think I had to go into the bc5 and the kmb to get the proper operation of everything
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#114
Yes I know that, but how did you get the data to 3? Mine only has nicht aktiv & aktiv (data 0 & 1 respectively). The double impulse is data 3 which isn't listed in mine (BC1.C06).
Also, does anybody know where the "Minimum number of flashes for one-touch turn signals" setting is? (I think it's MIND_ANZ_ZYKL_TIPP_BLK in abbreviated German).
Also, does anybody know where the "Minimum number of flashes for one-touch turn signals" setting is? (I think it's MIND_ANZ_ZYKL_TIPP_BLK in abbreviated German).
#115
I'm just starting in with NCS Expert/Dummy. Things are going well. Thank you for all the support.
I remember reading that you could use Dummy to compare trace files. I backed up my original, made my modifications and saved it as another file, then was able to load both to compare my changes.
From the pdf manual:
"Starting from NCS Dummy 0.6.0.0 the second trace file input field is hidden by default to save space for the graphical trace editor. The second trace file can be loaded via the "Browse..." button for "FSW/PSW or Nettodata trace 1". Choose "Compare Trace 2..." from the button dropdown menu to load the second trace file."
Super cool. That will be useful going forward and when I will be doing more advanced work and with multiple cars.
Another MAJOR tip I read from mrbean here on NAM (thanks!!) load the chassis and the TRC file first, then use the filter button to have Dummy choose what module you are coding. That way you don't need to "try" to make it work.
I remember reading that you could use Dummy to compare trace files. I backed up my original, made my modifications and saved it as another file, then was able to load both to compare my changes.
From the pdf manual:
"Starting from NCS Dummy 0.6.0.0 the second trace file input field is hidden by default to save space for the graphical trace editor. The second trace file can be loaded via the "Browse..." button for "FSW/PSW or Nettodata trace 1". Choose "Compare Trace 2..." from the button dropdown menu to load the second trace file."
Super cool. That will be useful going forward and when I will be doing more advanced work and with multiple cars.
Another MAJOR tip I read from mrbean here on NAM (thanks!!) load the chassis and the TRC file first, then use the filter button to have Dummy choose what module you are coding. That way you don't need to "try" to make it work.
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#116
I know things are slow around here, hoping some of the NCS Expert experts are still around. I'm trying to disable the awful auto lock feature (Verriegeln_aut_ab_x_km/h), changed it to "not enabled" but it still engages. Has this worked for anyone else? Do I need to change some other settings for it to take effect?
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so, i have swapped out the BC1 on Mini R50 and have programmed the Key code so now the Central locking works from the key. I am now trying to get the Air con working and comfort closing windows up here is the trace file i am not sure what DWA AND CAT1 are and don't understand why the air con does not work? as i have turned off the auto and enabled the manual
please help
DWA
aktiv
VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KM/H
nicht_aktiv
ZV_SELEKTIV
nicht_aktiv
STANDRUECKSCHALTUNG
aktiv
VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE
16_km/h
GED_FL_ALS_DRL
nicht_aktiv
HEIMLEUCHTEN
wert_01
TAGFAHRLICHT_ECE
nicht_aktiv
AC_AUTO
nicht_aktiv
AC_BASIC
aktiv
AC_POLUTION
aktiv
ALARM_INDICATION
aktiv
AUX_OFF_TIME
r50
AUXILIARY_LAMP_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
BOOT_RELEASE_ENABLE
aktiv
CAT1
aktiv
CLUTCH_OFF
wert_01
CLUTCH_ON
wert_01
DAYLIGHT_RUN_POWER
wert_01
DEFAULT_EXT_AMBIENT_TEMP
nicht_aktiv
DIPPED_BEAM_NAS
nicht_aktiv
DISABLE_FRESH_PARK
nicht_aktiv
DISABLE_RECIRC_PARK
nicht_aktiv
DO_MISLOCK_ON_ALL_RF
nicht_aktiv
EEROM_STATUS
r50
ENTRIEGELN_B_MOTOR_STOP
nicht_aktiv
FOG_DISABLE_WITH_TRAILER
aktiv
FRONT_FOG_NAS
nicht_aktiv
HALTEN_FB_OEFFNEN_TASTE
komfort_oeffnung
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION1
wert_01
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION2
wert_01
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION3
wert_01
HFS
nicht_aktiv
HFS_HIGH_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HFS_LOW_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HFS_OFF_TIME
r50
HR_HIGH_BAT_THRESHOLD
wert_01
HRW_HIGH_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HRW_LOW_BAT_THRESHOLD
wert_01
HRW_LOW_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HRW_OFF_TIME
r50
INDICATE_DURING_HAZARD
aktiv
KEY_DISARM
nicht_aktiv
KEYINTERLOCK_AUTO
manual
KEYINTERLOCK_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
KOMFORTOEFFNUNG_SCHLOSS
aktiv
LAMP_WITH_AUX_OFF
aktiv
LAMP_WITH_AUX_SIDE
nicht_aktiv
LAZY_LOCK_WITH_KEY
aktiv
LIGHTS_ON_WITH_WIPERS
nicht_aktiv
LOCK_DIRECT_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
LOCK_DOUBLE_SUPERLOCK
nicht_aktiv
MAN_WISCHEN_IM_WASCHPROG
aktiv
MANUFACTURING_MODE
nicht_aktiv
MAX_ALARM_EVENTS
r50
MAX_ON_LEVEL
r50
NO_MAP_WITH_PERM_OFF
nicht_aktiv
NO_SOFT_ON_OFF
nicht_aktiv
NORMAL_MODE
aktiv
PARKING_LIGHTS
aktiv
POWER_WASH_MIN_OFF_TIME
r50
POWER_WASH_OFF_TIME
wert_01
POWER_WASH_ON_TIME
wert_01
RAMP_DOWN_INCREMENT
r50
RAMP_UP_INCREMENT
r50
REAR_WIPER_CONTINUOUS
nicht_aktiv
REF_POINT_STEPPER_MOTORS
r50
REMOTE_CONTROL
aktiv
REMOTE_DIRECT_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
REMOTE_DOUBLE_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
REMOTE_LAZY_LOCK
aktiv
SEL_ZV_SENDER
aktiv
SENSOR_REGEN
nicht_aktiv
SENSOR_SETTLE_TIME
r50
THRESHOLD_STEPPER_MOTOR
r50
TRANSIT_MODE
nicht_aktiv
TRIGGER_DURATION
r50
ULTRASONIC_WINDOW_OPEN
nicht_aktiv
VERRIEGELN_MIT_MOTOR_AN
nicht_aktiv
WIN_PINCH_ENABLE_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_AUTO_UP_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_AUTO_UP_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_INCH_AUTO
nicht_aktiv
WINDOW_PINCH_ENABLE_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_RAISE_DELAY
r50
WINDOW_SUNROOF
nicht_aktiv
WIPER_BOOT_INHIBIT
aktiv
WIPER_CAM_DELAY
wert_01
WIPER_NO_PROG_REAR_WASH
aktiv
WIPER_PROGRAM_WASH_OPTION
option_2
WIPER_REAR_CAM_DELAY
wert_01
WIPER_WASHER_START_TIME
wert_01
WISCHER_GESCHW_ABHAENGIG
aktiv
FRONT_FOG_ENABLE
aktiv
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_TYPE
manual
INERTIA_SW_FITTED
aktiv
MISLOCK_BEEP_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
REAR_FOG_ENABLE
aktiv
please help
DWA
aktiv
VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KM/H
nicht_aktiv
ZV_SELEKTIV
nicht_aktiv
STANDRUECKSCHALTUNG
aktiv
VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE
16_km/h
GED_FL_ALS_DRL
nicht_aktiv
HEIMLEUCHTEN
wert_01
TAGFAHRLICHT_ECE
nicht_aktiv
AC_AUTO
nicht_aktiv
AC_BASIC
aktiv
AC_POLUTION
aktiv
ALARM_INDICATION
aktiv
AUX_OFF_TIME
r50
AUXILIARY_LAMP_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
BOOT_RELEASE_ENABLE
aktiv
CAT1
aktiv
CLUTCH_OFF
wert_01
CLUTCH_ON
wert_01
DAYLIGHT_RUN_POWER
wert_01
DEFAULT_EXT_AMBIENT_TEMP
nicht_aktiv
DIPPED_BEAM_NAS
nicht_aktiv
DISABLE_FRESH_PARK
nicht_aktiv
DISABLE_RECIRC_PARK
nicht_aktiv
DO_MISLOCK_ON_ALL_RF
nicht_aktiv
EEROM_STATUS
r50
ENTRIEGELN_B_MOTOR_STOP
nicht_aktiv
FOG_DISABLE_WITH_TRAILER
aktiv
FRONT_FOG_NAS
nicht_aktiv
HALTEN_FB_OEFFNEN_TASTE
komfort_oeffnung
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION1
wert_01
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION2
wert_01
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_POSITION3
wert_01
HFS
nicht_aktiv
HFS_HIGH_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HFS_LOW_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HFS_OFF_TIME
r50
HR_HIGH_BAT_THRESHOLD
wert_01
HRW_HIGH_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HRW_LOW_BAT_THRESHOLD
wert_01
HRW_LOW_TEMP_TIME
wert_01
HRW_OFF_TIME
r50
INDICATE_DURING_HAZARD
aktiv
KEY_DISARM
nicht_aktiv
KEYINTERLOCK_AUTO
manual
KEYINTERLOCK_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
KOMFORTOEFFNUNG_SCHLOSS
aktiv
LAMP_WITH_AUX_OFF
aktiv
LAMP_WITH_AUX_SIDE
nicht_aktiv
LAZY_LOCK_WITH_KEY
aktiv
LIGHTS_ON_WITH_WIPERS
nicht_aktiv
LOCK_DIRECT_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
LOCK_DOUBLE_SUPERLOCK
nicht_aktiv
MAN_WISCHEN_IM_WASCHPROG
aktiv
MANUFACTURING_MODE
nicht_aktiv
MAX_ALARM_EVENTS
r50
MAX_ON_LEVEL
r50
NO_MAP_WITH_PERM_OFF
nicht_aktiv
NO_SOFT_ON_OFF
nicht_aktiv
NORMAL_MODE
aktiv
PARKING_LIGHTS
aktiv
POWER_WASH_MIN_OFF_TIME
r50
POWER_WASH_OFF_TIME
wert_01
POWER_WASH_ON_TIME
wert_01
RAMP_DOWN_INCREMENT
r50
RAMP_UP_INCREMENT
r50
REAR_WIPER_CONTINUOUS
nicht_aktiv
REF_POINT_STEPPER_MOTORS
r50
REMOTE_CONTROL
aktiv
REMOTE_DIRECT_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
REMOTE_DOUBLE_SUPERLOCK
aktiv
REMOTE_LAZY_LOCK
aktiv
SEL_ZV_SENDER
aktiv
SENSOR_REGEN
nicht_aktiv
SENSOR_SETTLE_TIME
r50
THRESHOLD_STEPPER_MOTOR
r50
TRANSIT_MODE
nicht_aktiv
TRIGGER_DURATION
r50
ULTRASONIC_WINDOW_OPEN
nicht_aktiv
VERRIEGELN_MIT_MOTOR_AN
nicht_aktiv
WIN_PINCH_ENABLE_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_AUTO_UP_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_AUTO_UP_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_INCH_AUTO
nicht_aktiv
WINDOW_PINCH_ENABLE_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_DRIVER
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_PASS
aktiv
WINDOW_SHORT_RAISE_DELAY
r50
WINDOW_SUNROOF
nicht_aktiv
WIPER_BOOT_INHIBIT
aktiv
WIPER_CAM_DELAY
wert_01
WIPER_NO_PROG_REAR_WASH
aktiv
WIPER_PROGRAM_WASH_OPTION
option_2
WIPER_REAR_CAM_DELAY
wert_01
WIPER_WASHER_START_TIME
wert_01
WISCHER_GESCHW_ABHAENGIG
aktiv
FRONT_FOG_ENABLE
aktiv
HEADLAMP_LEVEL_TYPE
manual
INERTIA_SW_FITTED
aktiv
MISLOCK_BEEP_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
REAR_FOG_ENABLE
aktiv
Last edited by NER11; 08-15-2021 at 05:29 AM. Reason: spelling
#121
#122
#123
I know things are slow around here, hoping some of the NCS Expert experts are still around. I'm trying to disable the awful auto lock feature (Verriegeln_aut_ab_x_km/h), changed it to "not enabled" but it still engages. Has this worked for anyone else? Do I need to change some other settings for it to take effect?
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#124
Yes I know that, but how did you get the data to 3? Mine only has nicht aktiv & aktiv (data 0 & 1 respectively). The double impulse is data 3 which isn't listed in mine (BC1.C06).
Also, does anybody know where the "Minimum number of flashes for one-touch turn signals" setting is? (I think it's MIND_ANZ_ZYKL_TIPP_BLK in abbreviated German).
Also, does anybody know where the "Minimum number of flashes for one-touch turn signals" setting is? (I think it's MIND_ANZ_ZYKL_TIPP_BLK in abbreviated German).
Last edited by Onizukachan; 08-10-2022 at 05:24 AM.
#125
just note there is more than one. There is overall but also the key profiles 1-4. Change them all . Also there was a way to change that with a sequence of button presses with ignition on, something like ignition on press lock 6 times or ignition on press unlock 6 times or similar for the key profile
Thanks, I did manage to sort it and I think it was along the lines you mentioned: disable it everywhere!
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