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Old 05-28-2013, 10:16 AM
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Check out this post, specifically step 4 only. http://www.e46zone.com/forum/topic/2...-16-pin-cable/

The additional steps where the chap adds ignition detection via a pair of transistors is a fancy upgrade but not required. Ignition detection serves no purpose other than to switch on a black circle in the software and we all set it to ignored in the Obd.ini file with the text UBATT=ON
 
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:28 AM
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Just looked at your link.....Easy Peasy!
I've soldered some LED circuits that should give me sufficient practice. I'll solder some random things before diving into this though, wouldn't want to wait for another cable.

Thank you for the info, joylove.
Looking forward to her being a little smarter.
 
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:32 PM
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Sorry to jump in but I have a 2005/6 r53 and the airbag light is lit, we have sparcos.
I know what cursed it, a flat battery.
I have ordered the cable and will mod it.
To reset the srs is it in Ncsexpert or Inpas.
Help.
Just don't want to load unnecessary software.
Will be winxp.

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Old 06-12-2013, 09:23 AM
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I think It's Inpas, but I can't find it.
Good luck!
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:30 AM
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Go into the airbag module with INPA and clear the errors. this will clear the warning light, assuming no error persist, such as missing sensors due to the seat swap.
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:18 PM
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I received my cable today. I've downloaded quite a few things and none of them work. Beginning to think that it just isn't possible or the instructions are too vague.
Can somebody write a proper step by step with the actual links in the same post?
Every time I get re routed to another post I get lost, there's never anything to download such as INPA or NCS Expert. Just more Half finished how to.
A bit irked that I can't get this to work.
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:13 PM
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Have gotten to the point of running LADEN.BAT but its not there. Any input?


EDIT: Re-read OP.....lol...
NVM
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler&Claire View Post
I received my cable today. I've downloaded quite a few things and none of them work. Beginning to think that it just isn't possible or the instructions are too vague.
Can somebody write a proper step by step with the actual links in the same post?
Every time I get re routed to another post I get lost, there's never anything to download such as INPA or NCS Expert. Just more Half finished how to.
A bit irked that I can't get this to work.
You are unlikely to find such a thing, since the software is often on sites that are naughty. A few clues usually help you find the software.
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:08 PM
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Well, I've gotten everything downloaded and installed and as far as I can tell, have followed all instructions correctly, but my laptop isn't picking up my car.
At the part where it says, "turn key to on position and press start button once" I am in an R53 with no start button, is there something else that I should do?
 
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:06 AM
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Yeap I had it Sussed thanks.
I ordered a VAG cable with. FDI 232 chip, I also had a npn trany and loads of resistors.

I opened the vag lead, shorted pins 7 and 8 with solder on the odb connector.
I also shorted the pins on the 232 chip and soldered the npn in place, I then soldered a resistor from pin1 of the odbc to the centre pin of the tranny.

This is for it to work correctly and pick up the ignition, I think.
I booted the laptop up and put the key in the mini and without starting the mini set the key position to 1 click forward.
I then inserted the odbc can on Inpa, clicked on shift f4 (R50) , then body then airbag first option as mine had two entitled airbag.
Read then clear.
All done.

Looked at a great tool in it called rough.


If you have problems, open up the odbc and check all the solder points.
Check your datens you might need to include then and rerun the register tool which you have mentioned.
If you need me too I can take pictures of my cable install to check against yours..
 

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Old 06-13-2013, 10:26 AM
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Install the drivers and change the port to com 1
Also reduce the speed things to 8 in the advanced section of the driver.

Have you modded the cable, what chipset did you get.
 
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For those less confident with their soldering, only the pin 7&8 short is mandatory, you can override the battery detection in obd.ini using the UBATT line item.
 
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:22 AM
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Yeap,
But for me it was easier to mod the cable than to remember to change the ini file.
I suppose all the years of chipping console have finally paid off for me.

I have found about VAG cable with a different chipset, a CH340T instead of the favoured FDI 232.
These can be a pita compared to the FDI ones.
 

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Old 06-13-2013, 11:25 AM
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Interesting. Any pics of the cables to avoid? Also when does modding the speed thing do, reduce the "data interface disturbed" during high speed logging of module status?
 
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:28 AM
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But read the error first, decide if this is something you are equipped to fix, otherwise guess what the light will return.
Mine was easy, it said side airbag had a fault, well Sparco's don't have side airbags.
So I was confident to clear it, I will recode it out using NCExpert like it should've been to start with.
 
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:40 AM
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The CH340T equipped cables look the same, ask the seller if it is a 232 chipset.
Even if you pay a little more its worth it.

Regarding the settings Ive double checked it, my settings are.
bits per second = 9600
data bits = 8
parity = none
stop bits = 1
flow control = none
receive and transmit fifo buffers set to 8 to help ease the programming.

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I think it is possible to use it for detection, firstly
Short pins 8 and 13 on the CH340T and connect this to a BC547C pin E
Pin B on BC547c to ODBC Pin1
PIn C to PIn 12 on CH340T

Pinout on CH chip
Indent or dot represents pin 1 then its counter clockwise.

You would still need to short pins 7 and 8 on the odbc
 

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Old 06-13-2013, 11:48 AM
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I'm using windows XP as it is far more flexible regarding programming.
 
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Have gotten to the point of running LADEN.BAT but its not there. Any input?


EDIT: Re-read OP.....lol...
NVM
Laden.bat has to be renamed copied from another daten to the one you need.
Rename it back to laden.bat nd run
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:37 AM
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I bought this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290926213129...84.m1497.l2649

All the mods are supposed to be pre-done. Hopefully it will work well. It's still in the mail so I haven't tested it yet.
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OldGameFreaK View Post
I bought this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290926213129...84.m1497.l2649

All the mods are supposed to be pre-done. Hopefully it will work well. It's still in the mail so I haven't tested it yet.
definitely let us know how that goes! looks promising.
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:20 PM
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They are based 20 miles away in Leicester uk.
I contacted them on the mobile and they never returned my call.
It's good you have all the software.
 
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Does this cable prevent use with INPA, assuming you do the Pin 7&8 mod successfully?
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:11 PM
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Don't know yet, I'll sort the pins on the odb and give it a lil test.
It'll be interesting to find out.
 
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:37 PM
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Ok tried the cm340t with 7/8 odb shorted.
Read 20% balance was errors.
Shame, loaded the drivers and rebooted.
Made sure it was set to com1

Retread with fdi232 and cleared 3x codes on next doors mini cooper.
But couldn't reset the service lights though, I had to do at manually.
 

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