I've a JCW Factory with xenon and 4 light kit (vipcustomparts.com).

I want to have the 4 driving lights come on only when the high beams are switched on (and not use an extra switch).

Everythings are ok, the power come directly from the battery to the driving lights (without causing any undue strain on the headlight circuit) so...
I've wired all except the relay...

I can't find the "high beams segnal" to match with the relay..

Please help me!!!
Here in Italy nobody can help me!!!

Tnx

 

PM sent..

 

I've solved..
Thanx a lot!!!!

 

Why did you send the answer as PM? Other people search these forums for help, and I'm having this problem now, too :(

 

Because what he was saying is in most states illegal. Many states limit the axillary light to two (fogs and driving light each count as axillary) so having a pair of fog lights means you can not have driving lights added. Although most states will not bother you if you have both fogs and driving lights installed, if they do stop you for other reasons they may ticket you for the excessive lights. And in all states it is illegal to have driving or fog lights on when the high beams are on as this is a federal law as well.

 

The OP never mentioned fogs.

 

I will re quote my self here.

And in all states it is illegal to have "driving or fog" lights on when the high beams are on as this is a federal law as well.

 

While I do not have a law degree, there is not a Federal statute dictating state and local driving light usage laws. While you are correct many states are likely to have laws, there are no federal laws. All regulations regarding lighting use, including auxiliary and cosmetic, are determined by individual states DOT, with further restrictions potentially applied by individual cities/towns.

If you want a full background on Federal regulations regarding FDOT standard 108 you can refer to:

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...cfr571.108.htm

But your overall point stands, STATE laws may restrict use. Everyone is best advised to check with their local state DOT website on light usage.

 

My car is wired up to where my fogs go off with high beam,But my Aux driving lights come on only with high beams.So there are only 4 lights on at anytime

 

What you are looking at is only part of the standard. Also included in that standard are references to the following which do state have statements about the amount of light that the Head lamps and Axillary lamps (fog or driving) can produce and the relation ship between them.

SAE Standard J573d

SAE Standard J578 MAY88

SAE Recommended Practice J564a

SAE Recommended Practice J565b

As well as many others, over 300 in all.

After years of working with the automotive lighting industry
i can tell you when the High beams are on there are by law
(Federal) not to be any other Auxiliary (fog or driving)
lights on facing to the front of the car.

 

While I can certainly appreciate your automotive experience, the items quoted do not address the number of lights on a car.

All the items you quoted are part of the full standard 108. The first two quoted are in regards to meeting DOT requirements for manufacturing and installation (NOT USE) of bulbs.

Again, I really do not want to argue the point, as I think we all agree, it is best to drive safely and not blind oncoming traffic, or detract from your front blinker.

You can choose to disagree, but there is no section of federal law on any book restricting total amount of light emitted from driving lights. Russell V. California is a perfect example. It ultimately went to the USDOT which stated:

"We have no authority to approve or disapprove lighting equipment. Under our statute, a lighting (or vehicle) manufacturer is required to certify that its equipment (or vehicle) meets the Standard No. 108 (if it is replacement equipment included in the standard), and the use of the DOT symbol on the item is the most frequently used method of certification...You ask whether there is any limitation to bulb wattage for auxiliary lamps used to supplement the headlamps when used on the upper beam. There is no wattage limitation."

Shortly there after, CA changed it's laws limiting the total number of auxiliary lights to four. The US government does not care about how many lights Joe-Bob has on his truck, they are not going to police, fine etc. As such, the code leaves it up to states to regulate the matter. The same argument can be had for tinted glass, radio noise, etc. The federal government has no jurisdiction over the use of any of these. Manufacturing? Yes. Use? No. They are all decided on state and local levels. That is why some cities can have under-carriage lights and some do not. Please let no one add those to their Mini's.

 

The MINI driving lamps will ONLY come on when the high beams are on.