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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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ScanGauge II vs. Brockway Engineering R920

I'm looking at getting one of these two devices and I'm wondering what experience or knowledge you guys have with each of them.

I like the looks of the R920 and it appears to have a built-in accelerometer to measure 0-60 times, but it looks like it can only display 2 metrics at a time, whereas the ScanGuage can display 4. It appears with the X-gauge functionality that the ScanGauge is more user configurable. Aside from the accelerometer, is there anything of value that the R920 provides that the ScanGauge doesn't?

Also, I didn't see anything on either of the two product's websites that indicates that they do any type of data logging. I'd like something that I can get output from onto my computer so I can graph it. Am I missing something or do neither of them provide this?
 

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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I use the Brockway R920. Highly recommended. Yes it only does 2 displays. I find that enough. Support is phenomenal. More to follow, need to run right now...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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I use the Scanguage 2. I currently display water temp, boost, voltage, and air intake temp. The X-gauge function is pretty cool because you can program new guages as they become available. Horsepower and Boost are a couple I can think of off the top of my head. Also, the Scanguage looks almost oem when it is mounted down in the cubby by the shifter. You can even set the backlight to match the Mini's gauges. Ill post a couple pics tommorow so you can see what I'm talking about
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by com3tojo3
I use the Scanguage 2. I currently display water temp, boost, voltage, and air intake temp. The X-gauge function is pretty cool because you can program new guages as they become available. Horsepower and Boost are a couple I can think of off the top of my head. Also, the Scanguage looks almost oem when it is mounted down in the cubby by the shifter. You can even set the backlight to match the Mini's gauges. Ill post a couple pics tommorow so you can see what I'm talking about
Cool. Thanks! Looking forward to the pics!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Here's the Scangauge in the cubby of my MCS ...



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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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does the scangauge II read A/f ratios as well?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lxjose9xl
does the scangauge II read A/f ratios as well?
Nope - only stuff that can be pulled from the ODB-II bus... but it can show fuel trim and O2 sensor data...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lxjose9xl
does the scangauge II read A/f ratios as well?
According to this page: http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/XGAUGE.pdf, it can be read for GM cars, but it doesn't say anything about MINIs. I take it that it's up the manufacturer as to whether they report A/F ratio.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:35 AM
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Exactly.... whatever your make/model reports via standard or extended data on the OBD-II bus. I've hunted for clues that there may be more stuff "on there" for the MINI... but haven't found anything so far...
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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so the scangauge will work on a 07 mcs. and you just plug it in the obd port and thats it . im sure i sound like a dip just want to learn more about it. it would be nice to see water temp and boost without and all the other readings without hooking up gauges under the hood and it looks a lil stealth in the cubby.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Yep - works on an 07 - plug and play. A little easy custom programming required for estimated HP and boost - details are in other threads here.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Can these thing read mini (bmw) specific codes?
Cany they clear the airbag light or other lights related to non-engine modules?
I'm thinking there's nothing out there just yet that can.
Reading the bmw-specific codes probably would be a good thing for diagnostics since the generic readers can give erroneous codes when things get a little tricky.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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they can read and clear any code that the powertrain and transmission throws and is stored in the computer on any obdII compliant vehicle. I've read and cleared codes on chevy, lexus, mini with mine.

I'm not sure about the Airbag/Non-Engine modules? Is that controlled through the same computer/port?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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I doubt it can do anything for the airbag light (assuming you mean the overhead one). That type of thing is available in Volkswagens through VAGCOM, I wish they'd make on for MINI!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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I hear you. I've had Vag-Com for ~8 years now.
I heard a rumer that Uwe Ross was going to do a Bim-Com, but it's probably hard enough just to keep up with one mfr. It's not like they're trying to make things easy for him!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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So do either of these devices support data logging in some format that can be exported to a computer?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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I think the scangauge's thing is more towards the 'gauge'.
I bet there's an inexpensive generic OBDC program out there for a laptop for logging.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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I've orderd the Innovate Motorsports OT-1 to use with my Sony Vaio UX Micro PC. This will allow me to run the software on my micro pc for real-time as well as datalogging for later review.

My goal is to add the wideband o2 via thier LC-1 and then add the LM-3 (Aux-Box) for even more functionality, like boost, egt, accelerometer etc.

It's quite a bit more money but the system will do a lot more "data-logging" and acquisiton.

I'll start a thread once I get going on the products and be sure to let eveyone know how it is.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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so anyone with the scangauge II on a MCSa 2007, any pic? any function that doesn't work? is it fully compatible? what i just want is the boost, water\oil temp and oil pressure...

thanks
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by donuttang
so anyone with the scangauge II on a MCSa 2007, any pic? any function that doesn't work? is it fully compatible? what i just want is the boost, water\oil temp and oil pressure...

thanks
Yes. See my gallery. Ooops. Not an a.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Yes. See my gallery. Ooops. Not an a.
Nice. You've probably posted about it before but how did you mount it there? Velcro?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Yep, Velcro. Perfect fit & angle.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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very nice, well i'm sold on the scan gauge II. I will do some price shopping and order.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Will the SGII do oil temp and pressure on an R56? I know it doesn't on an R53, but they may have added that data to the OBD bus on the R56?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Will the SGII do oil temp and pressure on an R56? I know it doesn't on an R53, but they may have added that data to the OBD bus on the R56?
I don't believe so, but I don't remember. But, if those were an option, I am sure I would have chose to display at least one.
 
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