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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Hi guys. My MINI is the RHD version, so my OBD2 port is on the right, too far to tap for constant power (also a pain the *** i found for routing the meter cable). Is there another constant power source in the middle console? or somewhere on the passenger side?

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
hello, what is the difference betweent he 12V switched and 12V constant?
12v constant is voltage that's *always* there, so long as you've got a battery installed anyway. Ignition on/off, engine on/off, fob in/out, there's always 12v on the line.

12v switched requires the ignition to be on for 12v to be present.

And just to be complete, illumination is a line that only has voltage on it when your marker/headlights are on.

Mr. Bill, '09 Cooper S
 

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Just finished installing my Alta/Prosport gauges.
Boost + Water Temp.
installed w/ White lighting for day-time driving, Orange lighting for night-time driving.

My impressions,
-Out of the box the gauges look very nice
-Install was pretty easy, Alta rates it a 3 out of 5 stars in difficulty. I'd say it's a 1.5 for difficulty, -it does take time, yet if your patient, follow the directions and read everything before you do anything it's pretty easy.
-Upon starting up the car and having gauges come on.. DANG! These are sweet.
-I opted to install the water temp hose coupler from M7 (instead of drilling into my water resevoir).
-My water gauge is reading a steady 180-185 F.
-Boost seems to be working, haven't driven it too hard to get a good maximum boost level (yet).
-the rattling of the gauge adjustment ***** are driving me nuts. I have a fix in mind (going to slide a thin transparent tubing around each **** post ...this will eliminate the noise).
-orange coloring of gauges matches interior OEM gauges to a T
-I like the on/off sequence the gauges go through ...also like the purple coloring of the gauges when you turn the car off.
-I LOVE the all black face of the gauges when turned off ...matches the black trim on my car's interior very nicely.

If anyone needs help w/ the install feel free to PM or post questions.
(I even had a trick to not lose any water when I installed the M7 sensor coupling).
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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..here are some photos,

Gauges installed!-01.jpg

Gauges installed!-02.jpg

Gauges installed!-03.jpg
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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So I installed a boost guage and need a "switched" wire in my R56 so the light turns on only when the key is on. Sounds like the best option is the OBD port. Which wire is it? Thanks for any help.

btw. I'm boosting about 11-13 average with a few ticks into 15 psi here and there. Thats stock (2007 model, I heard they have higher boost). Going in for a GIAC flash on Tuesday.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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install happening soon

er1c, I'll be doing an install in about a month when i get home, and i'll be using the m7 coupler, care to depart some of your knowledge on me? thanks in advance!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HamiltonSeth
So I installed a boost guage and need a "switched" wire in my R56 so the light turns on only when the key is on. Sounds like the best option is the OBD port. Which wire is it? Thanks for any help.

btw. I'm boosting about 11-13 average with a few ticks into 15 psi here and there. Thats stock (2007 model, I heard they have higher boost). Going in for a GIAC flash on Tuesday.
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Red wire w/blue stripe and yellow hatch.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Took me about 90 mins to install. Went for few test drives. Gauge read "peak 10psi normal" & "peak 12psi in Sport mode." Not a bad gauge for its price, but I still like the Defi better.
 

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by denizen224
12v constant is voltage that's *always* there, so long as you've got a battery installed anyway. Ignition on/off, engine on/off, fob in/out, there's always 12v on the line.

12v switched requires the ignition to be on for 12v to be present.

And just to be complete, illumination is a line that only has voltage on it when your marker/headlights are on.

Mr. Bill, '09 Cooper S
I have got my DEFI installed and it has been fine the last few months except for the problem with the illumination.

It only lights up if i have the lights on BEFORE i start the engine. If i don't then it won't light up when i switch on the lights.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by danielo
I have got my DEFI installed and it has been fine the last few months except for the problem with the illumination.

It only lights up if i have the lights on BEFORE i start the engine. If i don't then it won't light up when i switch on the lights.
It's the same thing with the Prosport. Your Defi probably gonna last longer than my Prosport tho.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ndylam
It's the same thing with the Prosport. Your Defi probably gonna last longer than my Prosport tho.
Both are great gauges, but the Defi certainly has an edge over the ProSport. You do pay more than just a bit more for the Defi and that is a choice for each individual. The ALTA Gauge Pods are compatible with both styles and can be ordered either way. BUT, ProSport has been 100% reliable for warranty replacements on gauges, and sensors regardless of how long the gauges have been in use. If you ever have a problem, let us or ProSport know right away!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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hey Adam
Is the ProSport oil pressure gauge mechanical or electrical.

thanks
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by newbs49
hey Adam
Is the ProSport oil pressure gauge mechanical or electrical.

thanks
Oil Temp and Pressure are both electrical. Good question! Thanks for asking!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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hate to be a pain in the arssss. How accurate is the oil pressure gauge.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ndylam
It's the same thing with the Prosport. Your Defi probably gonna last longer than my Prosport tho.

Is it just us 2 that have this problem?

Anyone have a fix for this?

 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo

Is it just us 2 that have this problem?

Anyone have a fix for this?




ill let you know in about a month when i'm home and able to install mine...

until then it would be nice to know if i should be expecting this issue.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Another problem that I'm encountering is the illumination color. The gauge is alway on Amber whether is on Daytime or Nighttime mode. How do you guys get White for Daytime ?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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hey guys
I have had these gauges in my car for 3 years now. Boost and EGT. Wiring was a pain in the arrssss to get them to work right as far as color and when they lite. Had to play with the wiring for about an hour. The instructions were not correct with the wiring in the car as far as color coding. I can't remember what the wiring was. Had a buddy at the dealer play with the wiring with his dealer wiring info.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by newbs49
hate to be a pain in the arssss. How accurate is the oil pressure gauge.
Originally Posted by danielo

Is it just us 2 that have this problem?

Anyone have a fix for this?

Originally Posted by ndylam
Another problem that I'm encountering is the illumination color. The gauge is alway on Amber whether is on Daytime or Nighttime mode. How do you guys get White for Daytime ?
Originally Posted by newbs49
hey guys
I have had these gauges in my car for 3 years now. Boost and EGT. Wiring was a pain in the arrssss to get them to work right as far as color and when they lite. Had to play with the wiring for about an hour. The instructions were not correct with the wiring in the car as far as color coding. I can't remember what the wiring was. Had a buddy at the dealer play with the wiring with his dealer wiring info.
Trying to follow along so excuse me if I am off track a bit.

1) Oil pressure gauge (as well as the other options from ProSport) have all been very accurate. when we first bought into the line ALTA2 (Jeff) tested each type of gauge on a bench first. So you should be just fine.

2) On the illumination with ProSport (not sure on defi as it has been years since I have hooked a kit up) the key is getting the feed to the leads proper. The instructions SHOULD be correct on all the color codes and I believe we adjusted the ALTA instructions to match the proper codes. I had two wires backwards on my personal car though and it would do odd things. If anyone is having an issue with the colors not cycling properly, please let us know so we can help you!

Thanks folks!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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Thanks ADAM. I had my issues 3 years ago when I got my GP. The wiring instructions back then weren't right according to the dealer. But, that was a long time ago. I know if you don't get it right, they won't light properly.

Thanks
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Adam, I tapped all the wires according to the Alta instruction.

Red wire to OBD II Red wire w/blue stripe and yellow hatch
Black wire to Brown wire on Cigarette lighter
Orange wire to Red wire on cigarette lighter
Grey wire to DCS module

How to fix this to get White day-time and Amber night-time?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ndylam
Adam, I tapped all the wires according to the Alta instruction.

Red wire to OBD II Red wire w/blue stripe and yellow hatch
Black wire to Brown wire on Cigarette lighter
Orange wire to Red wire on cigarette lighter
Grey wire to DCS module

How to fix this to get White day-time and Amber night-time?
Thanks for the info! I am going to PM you and Chris in the Tech Dept. here. Can you reply to that with a daytime tel#, etc.?

Thanks again! Sure we can get this figured out right away!
 
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