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Old 10-25-2022, 08:17 AM
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can you show me a pic? I don't recall specifically, but If I see them I am sure I can tell you. I didnt install mine myself, but have installed a LOT of suspension/springs kits over the years.

I am assuming that they are spring pads to locate the new spring into the OE perch.
 
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Old 10-25-2022, 08:28 AM
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It is a flat, rubber donut. I think it must go on the top of the rear springs between the body and the top of the spring. It is the only flat surface in the front or back.
 
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ok, yes, I think that is correct. That is typically where it goes to prevent noise.
 
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Old 10-28-2022, 03:00 PM
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@Tifosi This is exactly what came in my box.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1865218

I think it is optional but I've asked Eibach for guidance.
 
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let me know if you dont get acceptable answers from them, I can ask some industry friends (I am not longer in the biz).
 
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I finally found the installation guide on the Eibach site. The rubber pad is mounted on top of the OEM spring perch mount. @Tifosi did your installer include this rubber pad? The front drop is supposed to be 30mm while the back is 20mm. I wonder if it is really needed.


 
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I also saw that the rubber gasket is 5mm thick. Is it there to just add 5mm to the springs for more rake or for comfort or both? It is only 20mm drop with the gasket so it would be 25mm without? The front is at 30mm so it would be a pretty low rake drop which I currently have with my ST coilovers.


 
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That is where we expected the pad, so makes sense. I have no clue, I would assume they did. They were not in the box after install. lol

Without talking to the engineer its hard to know if the pad is for sound isolation or for height spec. IMHO, I would use it.
 
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Stock shock length?

I'm pondering new shocks on my SE. My SE is my daily, but I'll be autocrossing it in GS next year.
How, exactly, was the SE raised? As best I can tell from realoem, it is longer springs and shocks. If that is the case, I won't be able to use F56/F54 shocks without also using shorter springs, which would take me out of GS class. I was hoping to put some Koni FSDs on. They were a great daily/fun combo on my R53.
 
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Old 11-12-2022, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pictsidhe
I'm pondering new shocks on my SE. My SE is my daily, but I'll be autocrossing it in GS next year.
How, exactly, was the SE raised? As best I can tell from realoem, it is longer springs and shocks. If that is the case, I won't be able to use F56/F54 shocks without also using shorter springs, which would take me out of GS class. I was hoping to put some Koni FSDs on. They were a great daily/fun combo on my R53.
The front is raised with the subframe so the front springs and struts work from an F56. The rear has longer springs and shocks. The shocks are from the F54 so you could try those but I don't think anyone sells aftermarket struts/shocks for the Clubman.

The only real choices you have right now are H&R or Eibach lowering springs with stock struts/shocks or get KW/ST coilovers.
 
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Originally Posted by Jon Roberts
The front is raised with the subframe so the front springs and struts work from an F56. The rear has longer springs and shocks. The shocks are from the F54 so you could try those but I don't think anyone sells aftermarket struts/shocks for the Clubman.

The only real choices you have right now are H&R or Eibach lowering springs with stock struts/shocks or get KW/ST coilovers.
Subframes won't affect ride height. Different p/ns at the front that can are shock and spring. Mini changes spring p/n a lot, it seems, so could be existing springs with new p/n.
Non-stock springs would take me out of street stock class.
I can change shocks, though, if the perches remain standard height.
F54 rear dampers are 47mm longer than f56, so I doubt the SE uses those. The rear springs are probably F54, though. There goes the cheapskate damping upgrade option.
I suspect unique SE shocks, F56S-ish front springs, F54-ish rear springs. F56 bits will fit, though shocks likely shorter. Rear springs need to be heavier than F56.

I've asked ECS to measure some F56 Konis so I can work out where the ride height changes are.

While looking at shock options, I noticed that WMW has a SE specific KW coilover set.
 
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Old 11-13-2022, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pictsidhe
Subframes won't affect ride height.
Yeah they will. Look at the Subaru Outback. The wagon version simply has different front and rear subframes to change the ride height.

Here are the part number differences: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4572413

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Subframes won't affect ride height.
While looking at shock options, I noticed that WMW has a SE specific KW coilover set.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have ST coilovers which are made by KW. There is another member on here with KW and another with ST too. ECS sells these for our cars.
 
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Originally Posted by Jon Roberts
Yeah they will. Look at the Subaru Outback. The wagon version simply has different front and rear subframes to change the ride height.

Here are the part number differences: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4572413


While looking at shock options, I noticed that WMW has a SE specific KW coilover set.
Yeah, I have ST coilovers which are made by KW. There is another member on here with KW and another with ST too. ECS sells these for our cars.[/QUOTE]

You might want to look more closely at the new Mini suspension arrangement before deciding that the subframe can change ride height. A classic Mini could have had a spacer put in the subframe above the doughnut. I've never had a Subaru apart, so I don't know how those are put together.

 
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