A 427 side oiler w/ 2 - 4s, Yup I'll take 1. If you could find it in your heart, please email the location so I could test drive it In the mean time 180ft/lbs + would put a smile on my ageing face....

 

I'll take the Cobra thanks

 

Pardon my slip up

"Custom tuning that will work with my mods and budget is not currently available on the east coast"

Sorry I should have been more specific.

IE Motec i$n't going to be for me....

I thought we talked and agreed that MTH will not do what I need...Unless things have changed. If they have I or I am mistaken, I am open to suggestions. Send me a PM.

As far as Lucky Dog Garage goes, I have sent PM's but never got a response aside from "we are working on offering it via mail." Working on = Not available.

FTB is working on distribution
Alta's Hydra is still a while a away
Unichip from what I understand isn't going to handle my mods either...

 

May I ask why? Are you planning on a more extensive mod package than you have listed?

 

I love to get to 225whp, but it looks like thats going to be hard to do. I have done most of the hang on mods. Still not even close. I'm look at the M62 but I dont have all the information yet. Maybe some day.

 

checkers.. all your mods and your where?? 185-190 WHP?? PM me I have a head for you!! cool??

Thanks
Thumper

 

It could be misinformation on my part, but the UNI does not look to have the tuneability to handle what all I have done aready. Looks more like a one size fits all package.

 

I've posted enough negatives about my Unichip that no one could call me a Unichip groupie.

But if you're willing to have it tuned (expensive and not quick) it certainly can accomodate where your car is at this point. You can maximize afrs for a pretty significant area, as well as timing. I don't believe that the others you list will allow you to take the car as far as a carefully tuned Unichip.

But careful tuning may mean multiple base line trips to the dyno, then out on the road with the tuner and his laptop for at least one session (in my case, three) to get it exactly where you want it.

So careful and thorough Unichip tuning could be anywhere from $250 or so if you get lucky (which I doubt if you're really picky), up to maybe $600-$900...

 

doesn't Unichip have a new version out, called the "Q"?

 

optimum WHP and TQ depends on how the car performs on the track for me. If i put my foot down mid corner and smoke my tires, that's too much. Every day on the track will tell me in which way the car needs improvement. Or how my driving needs improvement.

 

Yes.

However, except for some additional features, I don't think its tuning capabilities are any greater. I believe the option for self tuning may be available later. Not that I'd take a chance on doing that on my own...

But to know for sure, it'd probably be best to ask them directly.

 

This newer UNIChip will allow for minimal self-tuning, within certain (think really safe) parameters. It apparently can make for a better tune by being more dense as it offers adjustments at smaller RPM increments; at least compared to the UNIChip that I have (one of the earliest ones)...

I recall this from a conversation with Jack Friedman of UNIChip at the Monterey Historics, but I might be mistaken though...

 

Who agreed on what? I'm not referring to MoTec but rather utilizing the stock ecu, revised software, and Perfect Power.
What special modifications do you have that you think might cause ecu tune issues other than to large a pulley? You've got a head with minimal work, i.e., the stock valvetrain, and a street style header and cat back, right?

 

I was told that the new Unichip can tune to a finer resolution......hold 5 maps and support the "Flux", a PDA style diagnostic device

I belive that the self tuning will be something more like a "table"of mods that you can look up and select ala their "table" in the brochure. as far as true user tuning I think that is a ways off.....

 

I also have a cam, injectors, intercooler and yes, my 17 is probably a tick bigger than I need.

In talking with you previously on the issues I had with MTH, I was left with the feeling that MTH was great for those with few mods - i.e pulley, CAI, cat back, but not so hot for those with heads, cams, pulleys, injectors ect.

I am not sure what Perfect Power is, I assume another tuning option?

 

Bob,

Do you mean by finer resolution that there are more tuning points than there are now? I'm not talking about the number of maps - I mean the density of any map. That'd be cool, but a custom tune would be even more involved...

Since I have the Q, I guess that's all the map resolution that's gonna be available for a while, right?

Because when I went back to stock, while lacking throttle response, I felt that it (stock) seemed to be overall smoother. Not as "clumpy."

Kinda seemed like the grainy sound of early digital recording tests, especially when recorded below max resolution. Just not enough samples to make it seamless.

Not that I'd give up the effect of a custom tune, but it was noticable (at least I thought so - my butt dyno can probably be fooled by my onboard ecu .... ).

 

The maps as I see them are a big spread sheet..... "if then go to" kind of stuff..... under these conditions this is what will happen..... the density of cells is greater on the new one (my understanding) therefore potentially more complicated but finer nuances can be achieved..... or you can screw it up with more detail...... probably is smoother with the stock and that has been a complaint of mine.... i was impressed by how smooth your car was with the Unichip when I drove it.......

 

I'd like around 210 whp and as close to 200ft/lbs of tq without changing the supercharger. A guy can dream can't he?

 

MTH can and does do special request files.
Perfect Power is a piggyback system I sell that allows you to have control over your tuning and data acquisition.

 

idealy im shooting for 200whp / 200ft-lbs, ill take less if the tq is table flat and really drivable.

-jonathan

 

getting that kind of tq is a bit tough at that whp level....... how will you achieve?

 

it is more wishful thinking than anything, realisticaly i will shoot for 170 -180 and keep it nice and flat it i can.

-jonathan

 

very interesting thread.

I was at the shop the other day consulting with my mechanic about the upgrades that I want to do on top of the ones stated in my sig. He told me that with the air/fuel/ecu tunning that they have done to my car I should be getting somewhere around 210 whp. That amazed me of course.

The near future upgrades that Im planning are Head/stage 2 with cam, Nology ignition cables, NKG performance spark plugs and wires, 2006 stock crank pulley with an oil catch can and a cutomizd "air to air" intercooler made in England. I should hope that with those I will be at or around 235-240 whp.

That would be it for me for quiet some time when untill I decide do some handeling upgrades.

I'm not racing at the moment but would like to start slowly and gradualy with autoxing and perhpas some track but we'll see.

 

If you're getting 190+ you should be doing good...either that or you like smoke blown up yer butt!

If you are getting 210whp from a pulley, exhaust and flash, let us know who the tuner is as we'll be at their door ASAP!

 

I have only 216whp and thats with a head and cam. 216whp is considered very good, the most I have heard or read was 226whp. I'm sure I can get close to that with proper tunning since my car only has my orignal flash from Fireballed before I got the Head/Cam.
I still want 280whp, turbo, turbo, turbo.......
M