I want to run a turbo only set up on a MCS, I dont want insane HP like at most 250hp. I was thinking I could save money by keeping the HP down and use that money to get parts like a lightweight flywheel and crank pulley, I want it to be quick and responsive rather than powerful.

 

Hmmm.....
Am thinking you just run lower boost to keep the power lower. Not sure why you want to spend $$$ on a lightened crank pully for a nothing gain in HP when you could get more power by running just 1 PSI more on the turbo.

Look for the thread Spillman started "Pump Gas Only Turbo" or something like that. Its a very good read.

I dont understand the statement of spending less to keep the power down but then adding lightened parts. Maybe you should consider the M62 kits or even a twin charge...I believe either option is a little less than a straight turbo setup would be because of the addd customizations and such.

Seann

 

A "cheap" turbo setup now would run around 10k dollars.

 

For info on a turbo only MCS talk to Eric Savage at Helix13.com.
Let us know what you decide on doing.

 

holy shizzle :impatient Is that b/c of all the parts being fabricated?

 

your better off just doing work with the S/C on it.

just make it quick and responsive as it is now. instead of dumping money into a turbo kit. Then next thing you know your unhappy with your choice.

 

compromise and TC...

 

The only way I would see to cut cost would be to run a smaller turbo. But thats only a couple hundred bucks. Or don't use an intercooler and do water injection. Not sure how well that will work though.

 

.....or just get a new '07 MCS.

 

Yes but that motor doesn't have near the potential as the one in first gen cars.

 

ohhh... i don't know about that. Are saying that because of the aluminum block?

 

ditto.. idk about that either... No one on here is making crazy power numbers either... I'm thinking we'll see the same power numbers for less money on the second gen cars.. Just my opinion..

 

 

The next gen motor will be a far better platform for mods than the current one is. It will be available in far greater numbers and it will be easier to mod.

 

That is what I think..... second gen could be a monster.....

the head/cam alone will be a much better platform to evacuate/exhaust ...... I think the 07s have a strong chance of upstageing the 02-06.... we will all see pretty soon

 

I think what spillman means... is with the aluminium block... you can only go so far... the current motor has been bullet proof... even the rods and crank... I have my speculation about how far it will go before it starts coming apart... more like the hondas... 200% will be about it I think.... where with the current motor we have gone to 350% that's silly and rare....

 

The aluminum M3 motors were problematic for high hp mods...not sure where they are at now...... 200% for MOST of us is a damn nice number.......then there is Tuls....nuff said..... the man can not get enough while he is getting it

Tuls, I count on you to let me know where the limits are.....you are the man

 

I see your point... but it all depends on the construction of the block. If it is similiar to a honda with the crappiest sleves... then the motor will need to be resleeved... Once sleeved it will make stupid amounts of power... for daily driven hondas are now putting down 700+whp...

However, just because the block is made of aluminum doesn't mean that the block will have troubles. There are no such things as an aftermarket block for a ford GT or dodge viper... hell the iron block v10 is looked down upon in the viper world.

I guess the only thing i want to say is... don't write off the aluminum block yet... it all depends on how they built it...

however, i do know this fact... the new motor does cost less than the current motor.

 

Just think how many of these engines I'm going to end up with over here due to the fact that they'll be in Peugeout and Citroens.

 

ha ha ha! WOOO! no I have to say... I think 400 HP in the mini is perfect... but yes... I do enjoy pushing it... I get bored what can I say....

oh for sure.... I didn't mean to negate that... and ofcourse the sleaving is just one more set so no biggie... I just meant as a direct comparison... but then again... who is going over 200%? LOL... and yeah... I'll just sleave it... etc LOL

ooOOOOoooo... I thnk I am just going to move in with you guys...

 

x2! I agree.. and yea, all recent gen honda's are capable of putting down 350+ on stock blocks...

I've said it before and i'll say it again, the second gen mini's will be easier to mod, for more power, and less money... it's funny seeing everyone's reaction thinking the motor won't be as good... gotta love direct injection and turbo'd cars from stock...

 

you sir are on to something!

The direct injection is going to allow for some serious power with pump gas... and quite a bit of compression to boot!

 

The E46 M3's were problematic because they had a batch that liked throwing bits and pieces out it's side. They have had those resolved for the most part. Some of the guys on www.e46psi.com are puttin' down 5-600 HP now.:impatient