Drivetrain quality head s
quality head s
so everyone out there with an aftermarket head feel free to chime in.
who sells a good ;durable head not looking for giant valves but good strong stuff and maybe ;probably stronger springs. gonna run the same cam so just want a nice port job and nice valve job and springs . who's got it ?
who sells a good ;durable head not looking for giant valves but good strong stuff and maybe ;probably stronger springs. gonna run the same cam so just want a nice port job and nice valve job and springs . who's got it ?

so everyone out there with an aftermarket head feel free to chime in.
who sells a good ;durable head not looking for giant valves but good strong stuff and maybe ;probably stronger springs. gonna run the same cam so just want a nice port job and nice valve job and springs . who's got it ?

who sells a good ;durable head not looking for giant valves but good strong stuff and maybe ;probably stronger springs. gonna run the same cam so just want a nice port job and nice valve job and springs . who's got it ?


Just looked on Ebay and found the head you may be looking for. It's got all the bells and wistles with the current bid at $510. Item no# 180048361443. The guy selling it had over $1800 worth of work done on the head: larger valves; port polish; some thing called a Ferrera valve train w/ titaniom retaners and sronger valve springs,
Jay
Jay
Just looked on Ebay and found the head you may be looking for. It's got all the bells and wistles with the current bid at $510. Item no# 180048361443. The guy selling it had over $1800 worth of work done on the head: larger valves; port polish; some thing called a Ferrera valve train w/ titaniom retaners and sronger valve springs,
Jay
Jay
Good valve train parts and titanium retainers. $1800 easy.
More than the original poster was looking for and unless he plans on some serious mods to go with the head it might be a bit much.
For $1K though it might be hard to argue.
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To be honest with you, I wouldn't waste my money on heavier springs unless I planned on going over 8000 rpm. Other than that it's just creating more parsitic drag on the little motor...I can set you up with the machine shop that did my head. I am still using all stock valve train components, just larger valves. We were able to make impressive gains with a stock head and stock valve components for a reasonable price of around $650. If your interested let me know. -- Johan
when i do this (this summer) i gotta go with a reputable vendor or machine shop like denzyne. i wanna know it's been magnafluxed and is good to go . a good place will back the product.
Herbie asks for advice and then says he will go with a reputable vendor/machine shop like denzyne. ( sounds like you had denzyne already picked out ). Then Herbie wants to magnaflux aluminum. ( you will get laughed out of the shop on that one ) What I really think you meant was PRESSURE TEST the aluminum.
I nominate this thread for wacky thread of the year award for the following.
Herbie asks for advice and then says he will go with a reputable vendor/machine shop like denzyne. ( sounds like you had denzyne already picked out ). Then Herbie wants to magnaflux aluminum. ( you will get laughed out of the shop on that one ) What I really think you meant was PRESSURE TEST the aluminum.
Herbie asks for advice and then says he will go with a reputable vendor/machine shop like denzyne. ( sounds like you had denzyne already picked out ). Then Herbie wants to magnaflux aluminum. ( you will get laughed out of the shop on that one ) What I really think you meant was PRESSURE TEST the aluminum.

wow guess i am old . i said denzyne as an example richard . or is it ****? and yes i forgot mini put aluminum on cast; i thought that was considered iffy. funny you're the first here to jam on me on this everyone else has been very helpful . remember one twice daily and don't drink while on them .

Actually the name is Bill.
I nominate this thread for wacky thread of the year award for the following.
Herbie asks for advice and then says he will go with a reputable vendor/machine shop like denzyne. ( sounds like you had denzyne already picked out ). Then Herbie wants to magnaflux aluminum. ( you will get laughed out of the shop on that one ) What I really think you meant was PRESSURE TEST the aluminum.
Herbie asks for advice and then says he will go with a reputable vendor/machine shop like denzyne. ( sounds like you had denzyne already picked out ). Then Herbie wants to magnaflux aluminum. ( you will get laughed out of the shop on that one ) What I really think you meant was PRESSURE TEST the aluminum.

Magnaflux is a corporation.
Possibly he was referring to using a Zyglo process.
FPI testing a very good idea. Unfortunately the brand name is often used in a generic manner. Wouldn't be the first time I've heard it used wrong.
A little slack wouldn't really hurt anyone.
thx obe but he got me . i eel like i'm so not worthy now. pls. forgive my ignorance all . i promice it WILL happen again. but just try to read between the lines when dealing with those of lesser knowledge. now about this glycol process....
Some stuff to think about....
no one is making castings other than the original factory, so you're going to get some flavor of OEM head.
Most want a usable core. Yours may not be. That will add to the price.
I'm not sure I"d go with "this is what I want, where do I get it"..... I'd suggest finding your vendor, and then talking to them about how to get the improvements required to get to your goals. That will work better in the end. Each builder has a different "style".....
What are you looking for? Want a better head without upgrading valves? Why not? Want a better valve train with the stock diameters, doesn't really make sense...
Set your goals, talk about what it takes to get there with the vendors and shops that you're considering, and go from there. You will get at least as many ways to get to where you want to be as shops you talk to.
Matt
Most want a usable core. Yours may not be. That will add to the price.
I'm not sure I"d go with "this is what I want, where do I get it"..... I'd suggest finding your vendor, and then talking to them about how to get the improvements required to get to your goals. That will work better in the end. Each builder has a different "style".....
What are you looking for? Want a better head without upgrading valves? Why not? Want a better valve train with the stock diameters, doesn't really make sense...
Set your goals, talk about what it takes to get there with the vendors and shops that you're considering, and go from there. You will get at least as many ways to get to where you want to be as shops you talk to.
Matt
no one is making castings other than the original factory, so you're going to get some flavor of OEM head.
Most want a usable core. Yours may not be. That will add to the price.
I'm not sure I"d go with "this is what I want, where do I get it"..... I'd suggest finding your vendor, and then talking to them about how to get the improvements required to get to your goals. That will work better in the end. Each builder has a different "style".....
What are you looking for? Want a better head without upgrading valves? Why not? Want a better valve train with the stock diameters, doesn't really make sense...
Set your goals, talk about what it takes to get there with the vendors and shops that you're considering, and go from there. You will get at least as many ways to get to where you want to be as shops you talk to.
Matt
Most want a usable core. Yours may not be. That will add to the price.
I'm not sure I"d go with "this is what I want, where do I get it"..... I'd suggest finding your vendor, and then talking to them about how to get the improvements required to get to your goals. That will work better in the end. Each builder has a different "style".....
What are you looking for? Want a better head without upgrading valves? Why not? Want a better valve train with the stock diameters, doesn't really make sense...
Set your goals, talk about what it takes to get there with the vendors and shops that you're considering, and go from there. You will get at least as many ways to get to where you want to be as shops you talk to.
Matt
form what i've read many of the head tuners for the mini don't always go with bigger valves . but i have read that even the stock valves have been known to float at 6000 rpms . this latter bit does seem absurd cause who would put a red line at 750 rpm more than actual ;but i thought a little better springs couldn't hurt.. i'm basically looking for strength and if a good porting and valve job ad hp well that's good too. i'd be fine with 10 - 15 h.p. for the 650.00 from someone like johans guy . see i started the thread for recommendations . ex; i've got x amount mls. on my cosworth -all is well. that type of deal. no offence but to shell out even 500.00 on a sight unseen off ebay just doesn't work for me . the core chg. won't be an issue. my heads at most got some guide wear (hopefully). i don't have the tools or knowledge to flow this one so hence the thread.
Mine will be a while out though because I'm waiting on M62 package results which will impact my specs and may be going with better pistons at the same time.
My target is a reliable 210+lbs/ft.
Just so you know I have the same guy Johan had work his head starting on mine. The core as a matter of fact is Johan's old one.
Mine will be a while out though because I'm waiting on M62 package results which will impact my specs and may be going with better pistons at the same time.
My target is a reliable 210+lbs/ft.
Mine will be a while out though because I'm waiting on M62 package results which will impact my specs and may be going with better pistons at the same time.
My target is a reliable 210+lbs/ft.
I'm assuming head, probably pistons, better ECU map, header and then maybe the M62.
I'll settle for 200 if I have to. Might be a lightweight flywheel/clutch combo will help as well.
Originally Posted by Ebay
CLEARWATER CYLINDER HEAD INC IN CONJUNCTION WITH PRECISION-MINI is selling this mini cooper s 1.6 stage 2 ported and polished cylinder head. this head utilizies 1 mm larger competion style intake and exhaust valves. flow improvement over stock: 12% intake 20% exhaust. it does not have a large exhaust port cross-section (large cross-sections have the negative effect of decreasing both velocity and torque) intake is matched to gasket, with short side radius and bowl correction. flow charts are available. head work is the key to unlock the minis power potential! this head fits years 02-06. for any questions or options such as a upgrade cam,springs, and or retainers call 732-748-1964 or 732-259-5941 and ask for don.
form what i've read many of the head tuners for the mini don't always go with bigger valves . but i have read that even the stock valves have been known to float at 6000 rpms . this latter bit does seem absurd cause who would put a red line at 750 rpm more than actual ;but i thought a little better springs couldn't hurt.. i'm basically looking for strength and if a good porting and valve job ad hp well that's good too. i'd be fine with 10 - 15 h.p. for the 650.00 from someone like johans guy . see i started the thread for recommendations . ex; i've got x amount mls. on my cosworth -all is well. that type of deal. no offence but to shell out even 500.00 on a sight unseen off ebay just doesn't work for me . the core chg. won't be an issue. my heads at most got some guide wear (hopefully). i don't have the tools or knowledge to flow this one so hence the thread.
The valve springs are matched to cam events so they are not too heavy or lite. There is a lot of thought a good head builder will put into all aspects of the finished product.
It sounds like Johan & Obe have a good sourse for building heads. At a good cost for performance too. You wanted recomendations. So, talk to a tuner who will give you what you want & they will tell you what you need & how to get there.


