Spider X, you could try, http://www.directignition.com/products/tec3.html Is one type, or http://www.haltech.com/e6x.htm.

 

Cool. I have checked it out on your site before. EDIT: just checked the site again, it's a little different than the last time I was there. Nice.
You're right. It was a little late when I posted last night. It sounds like your custom tune is done at the track, is that correct? If so, that may get a wee bit expensive.

 

All custom tuning gets expensive. The DynaPack dyno and operator that I use costs $175/hour. The Land and Sea dyno costs more. Add my costs to it and it begins to add up. What we do for customers at the track is collect data. If it is a 2 or more day event I can get MTH retunes on the spot. Interestingly, at the end of the month there is a 3 day BMW event at Watkins Glen and Friday is a test day with open track time -- no run groups. It is also the last event before Watkins Glen closes for the year. Repaving begins October 1.

 

I dunno. I'd be afraid of claims arising from ummm, overly exuberant settings.

If I was selling such a program, there'd have to be an iron-clad disclaimer that I'm not reponsible for damage from too lean/too advanced timing conditions.

Because it WILL happen if left in the hands of the inexperienced.

Especially if performed without reliable afr data.

 

just not ours. And yes, if one doesn't know how to use it, serious damage can occure. But I've never heard of a single case of someone who blew their motor trying to recoup from the SW vendor.

So you sell the SW, and on the first page, you say "if you break your car, it's your fault not ours"....

Also some that sell SW that tunes look to things to check that you aren't doing something destructive, like give you a +/- a certain percentage from stock.... Hardware solutions too, the Apexi allows you to do a certain percentage A/F change. But I'm sure you could still lean the car to the point of danger or damamge...

That's the home garage world though. If you can't afford the cost of doing the work wrong, or running into a problem, then go to a shop. That's pretty much the way it's always been on car modification.

Matt

 

Oh I've seen it and watched it unfold in another community. Never underestimate the desire of some to deflect blame. Even with an airtight disclaimer, someone would go after the sw writer. It's just human nature.

 

What about us TC guys??? Make a boy happy.....

 

I'm not 100% sure of whats going on here BUT I"M IN. drop me a pm where when and how much.

 

Well. How is it? You test it out yet? What's the verdict?

 

Well here is my verdict and view:

1. My car is a MCSa so there is always some delay in the car's reaction and throttle response. This seems to of improved a tad.
2. My car seems to have a bit more oomph in the 3k-6krpm range.
3. While traveling down the highway I found the car had more power in 5th gear and it felt like it was in 4th.

On a side note, the tuner wasn't very forthcoming with information on the tune. I don't know if this is because he was beat from the last 2 weeks of MTTS or just his usual demeaner. I also mentioned my car had the Auto tranny and they said they never did one before. This might be why they didn't take my info or charge me for the flash.

 

Hope this works out for you ok.

You had both MTH and UniChip. How does it compare to those?

 

Well...I didn't notice anything when I had MTH. Possibly due to tranny or the configuration I had.

Unichip made a the same difference I am noticing with the Fireball. I sold the Unichip because I needed $ not because it was bad.

 

Decided to bring the thread back from the dead since they officially released the FTR! Hyper ECU. What parameters other than the ordinary are tunable. Like I asked earlier with no answer, will the idle be adjustable, could there be a rev-limit under 3mph to a desired RPM (for launching)?

 

I still have not received an answer how the FT pruduct compares to MTH with regard to rev limit, DSC, AFR and timing (part throttle and WOT). I know FTR nor MTH is going to disclose how they modify the ECU but I don't think what it does is a secret. Maybe both MTH and FTR can jump into this thread and say what their pruduct does.

 

There's more information on MTH (been around longer) than the FBT offering. I guess FBT still have to work out thier marketing details....

Matt

 

For details of what MTH does and how long they have been doing it, please see my web site. Just click below.

 

A/f and throttle are adjusted, as is the rev limiter and some other parimiters. Much of the development was done on my car and its made a big difference in the way it runs, starts and drives aside from pulling harder. I used to have an idle surge on startup but not anymore :-)

We could adjust the idle what is your reasoning for raising the idle? We are working on the crazy stuff like the low rmp limiter etc but I dont have a time frame or even a guestimate of when or if it will be included at some point.

 

I currently have the MTH tuner file and am very happy with it. I was thinking of switching to the FTR reflash if it had advantages over the MTH. Also, Don at mthpower@precision-mini.com has been providing great customer service. He can be reached daily by email, PM or phone. I checked the Precision-MINI website to see what their reflash offers:

MTH Tuning Software
Air/fuel ratio, ignition timing, and DSC optimization; 7200 RPM rev limit, speed limiter altered
Powerful – greater torque and an unparalleled response
Emphasis: maximum driving pleasure and clearly enhanced performance
Includes CarTune (software tuning updates: minimum fee: $60
COOPER: approx 135HP
COOPER S: approx. 200HP
COOPER S JCW: approx. 230HP
$380.00

Does the FTR product also optimize timing and the DSC? Is there a charge for updates?

 

Hey Fireball team,

I was wondering if you had any dyno plots showing improvements in power? I seem to remember seeing some dyno maps from yourselves some time ago but can't seem to find them now...

I have a few friends here in the UK who have pullied cars and are interested to see some power data for this remap

Thanks in advance,

Henry

 

Same problem you had, I get a rough idle every once in a while from the RPMs dropping down. And my idle seems very unstable, it goes up and down in RPM frequently. Time frame doesn't matter as I'm no longer in the market for an ECU just yet. Other things came up and my finances got backed up, you know how that works lol. I'm assuming that all the "crazier" stuff would be available at the same time as the Flash is available to costumers outside of your city. Be sure to keep us posted on ALL the updates. Your ECU sounds promising and I'll surely be going with it when the time comes!

 

Question, if I bought a used ECU for an '03 MCS would I be able to use it on my '02? If so, would you be able to Flash the new ECU given the mods and a dyno plot with a/f numbers?

 

I am not sure if it will work, they dont seem to be interchangeable. We tried swapping serveral ecu's and the cars wouldnt start.

We can make pretty much any needed changes to the ecu.

Thanks for the kind words!

 

But flashing doesn't get you there. I think the factory diagnostic from BMW/Mini can do it, but it's not part of the OBD-II standard, and there fore isn't quite as easy to hack.

Matt

 

02///MCS............i had the same problem with my idle,went to the dealer and had them reflash the ecu with version 42.2, no more idle problem,all gone!! good luck!

 

An ECM from any other Mini will not work in any other Mini. You must also buy the key, EWS, and possibly the instrument cluster and the General control module along with the ECM all from that same car. Otherwise I think you might be able to have your Mini dealer reprogram this new ECM, if that can be done.