Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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I got off the phone with a sales man, and asked about any products for the MCS, and they are working on a Titanium exhaust that weighs 10 pounds! There the first Japanese company to do so. If you haven't heard of JIC their a well knows Japanese company who specializes in Aftermarket parts for 350Z, WRX etc. So this is really good news to me. I don't know about you but this is awsome!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:33 PM
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HOLY MOLEY!!! I hope it is cheaper than the Quicksilver!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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I bought a fancy Japanese exhaust once. The stainless steel version was $700, and the titanium (!!) version was $1200.

I suspect this titanium exhaust will be the most expensive aftermarket exhaust on the market when it comes out.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Only 10 Pounds. Thats awsome and it won't be cheap as people think it will. But at least its top quality stuff!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Keep us informed of any progress you hear of. I spoke with JIC and heard the same info about 3 months ago, so I've been waiting for an update...
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Same here Randy I called them in January. They told me they had a prototype, but it wouldn't be ready till summer or sometime later.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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I'd rather spend the extra $600 on a gym membership. Food for thought. :smile: I need to lose 10 lbs between it and the Quicksilver, need to lose 24 pounds for the Magnaflow... Hmmm... I weight 180 right now, so maybe that plan isn't so good after all. I'm willing to make budget sacrifices but I'm not about to go anorexic for perfomance...
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Losing 10 lbs at the very back is a lot better than losing 10 lbs in the cockpit. Just some food for thought.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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>>Losing 10 lbs at the very back is a lot better than losing 10 lbs in the cockpit. Just some food for thought.

Grinder, you must be speaking strictly from a polar moment of inertia standpoint. Don't forget that a lighter driver will reduce vertical-Cg, and keep the car more longitudinally balanced!

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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I love *** cars, but who wants *** products on their german engineered/british built car. Might as well throw another country in there I guess.

Look at their titanium mufflers, big $ just for a muffler.

The magnaflow is top quality from what I hear and it only costs $600 for the whole cat back. That's pretty expensive by *** exhaust cost standards.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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AZZURRI: Nihonjin? Do they have a web site. A 10lb sytem is going to cost.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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>>AZZURRI: Nihonjin? Do they have a web site. A 10lb sytem is going to cost.

It will cost some major $$$ I am sticking with my Borla system.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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>>Losing 10 lbs at the very back is a lot better than losing 10 lbs in the cockpit. Just some food for thought.

Get a lighter battery?



OR...



 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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>>Losing 10 lbs at the very back is a lot better than losing 10 lbs in the cockpit. Just some food for thought.

Grinder,

Actually, the MINI is a 63/37 weight distribution front to rear, so you need to lose weight off the front, not the back. It is true that any weight far from the cg is good to lose from the rotational aspect of polar inertia, but the front is a much better place to do that.

Azzurri,

When I first contacted them, I was told it was just about ready - I'll have to give them another call and find out when that might be. Late summer seems to sound about right.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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Perhaps I shouldn't have made such a blanket statement, but given the amount of HP many of you guys are looking at, taking weight *off* the front is only allowing for more wheelspin. Overall weight reduction is great because you lower your inertia, but i was saying that removing the weight from the back would still allow you to maintain your current level of traction. Taken to the extreme, if you were to rear-mount the engine in the FWD MINI, you'd have a bit of trouble with any amount of acceleration. As far as handling and the inherent oversteer in the MINI, I can't say how the weight reduction in the rear will or wont help, but now you know where I was coming from.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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Do you have any pics of what some of the other titanium exhausts look like? For the other cars that is. I just want to see what I can expect to see.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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WWW. jic-magic.COM I don't speak Japanese. Only Italian.

Parli Italiano?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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That even looks a bit simpler than our MCS has to be with the battery box and all. This could be one expensive system!!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Interesting post from Randy and from Grinder... I agree that 50/50 weight balance is better, but wheelspin is already an issue. Would an LSD and closer to 50/50 be the ideal setup? I want to hear more about this!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Excellent point that I honestly hadn't put into the equation Grinder.

I think the optimum set-up would be a better suspension set-up with stiffer rear springs and a larger swaybar, 50/50 weight distribution, and AWD (but short of the AWD an LSD is a good soultion). The rearward distribution and the suspension set-up should take care of the additional trouble the LSD may give you in the understeer department.

Obviously the weight tracnsfer isn't going to happen, and we don't live in an ideal world( well, I guess some of us do). The best we can hope for then is lighter seats, a lighter bonnet, some lighter motor components, and the right suspension set-up.

Randy
 
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