Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain $2600 to blow.

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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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I agree.

It's why I listed it last in order.

It would probably be the next mod however.

Still no justification for a header this early in the game.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
Still no justification for a header this early in the game.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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HMS 7010 Lowered Final Drive Gears $1699.00 Quantity Imported from MINI Sport in England, one of the leading racing preparation shops, this king gear and pair of pinions loweres the final drive ratio of the Getrag 6 speed gearbox. It uses straight cut gears so the car is a little louder with that race-car whine. The result is very impressive on pre 2005 cars: the acceleration is ferocious, especially in the lowered gear. We installed this kit in a well-modified 2003 and the car is without a doubt the quickest non turbo car we have driven. The limiting factor is traction, not power. For more details on installation, and gear ratios, please call the shop.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dejablu311
I have 2600 to blow on making my car accelerate faster. I'm having trouble putting together a good list. Obviously adding power isn't the only way to go faster but carbon fiber body panels are expensive. So what i'm asking is how would you guys spend $2600 to make the car accelerate faster?

right now my list is as follows:

Alta Sportone exhaust (combo of weight and power) $600
Mini Madness CAI $200
Mini Madness throttle body $450
Mini Madness 15% reduction pulley $150
Alta header $760

What else can i get? is there a better combo for the price? Thanks for the help guys.
OK, you want to accelerate faster.
You have a budget.

What year MCS do you have? If a later year 05 or 06, do you have LSD?
If you have a 02-04 MCS with no LSD then-
First thing is to get a bit more HP with a 19% pulley upgrade and smaller pulley belt or 15% pulley and ECU (GIAC or similar) tuned for that sized pulley- You can add your ALta exhaust if you like.
You can do a hot air intake for not much $$$- it will work.

Forget the header and throttle body.

To loose more weight look for lighter rims and stick rubber-
Maybe best value in 16" rims from tirerack with 205/50-16 or 205/55-16 ultra High Performance non runflat summer tires or better.

If you have an 05 or 06 MCS with LSD then-
You can do the intake and exhaust then go to the lighter wheels and non runflat tires and save the rest for driving school! (the best plan yet)
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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if that is the case go back to post #18
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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If I worked at a speed shop, I'd see if I couldn't get a hellava deal on a flowed head. Add a more aggressive cam to make use of the worked head, might as well while the head is off. A pulley would bring more air in, and an exhaust would wisk it all away more effieciently. But good software would open up more power and options later.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by XAlfa
HMS 7010 Lowered Final Drive Gears $1699.00We installed this kit in a well-modified 2003 and the car is without a doubt the quickest non turbo car we have driven. The limiting factor is traction, not power.


I thought the limiting factor was noise.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Re gearing is obviously the cheapest way to go much faster but its also a good way to destroy your gas mileage. Plus straight cut gears are WAY too loud for a daily driver.

Oh and its an 04 so no lsd.

Wheels and tires are already picked out.

I work at a speed shop but we don't have any machining equipment. we outsource everything so i wouldn't get much of a deal. It would be much cheaper then the alternatives prolly but again, I don't think i want to be taking the engine apart. For this project.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dejablu311
Re gearing is obviously the cheapest way to go much faster but its also a good way to destroy your gas mileage. Plus straight cut gears are WAY too loud for a daily driver.
Sorry, didn't realize you were a tree-hugging, noise-intolerant p~ssy.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejablu311
all of these suggestions have been awesome guys. thanks. I had a feeling people would mention the driving schools and things. Thats already covered and done. I have a 95 M3 as a dedicated track car. Money has already been allotted to suspension and other things. $2600 is the amount i am willing to spend on HP and only HP. I am not going to spend more and probably not going to spend less. Labor is not an issue either. I work at a speed shop and spend my days tearing cars apart and putting them back together. The mini is going to be my daily driver and therefore needs to be as reliable as possible. Thats why i have been looking at bolt ons. The head is an interesting idea though. I will look into it. Keep it up guys.

Does anyone know if the wms head will benefit a bone stock S? It would seem to me that a higher flowing head is useless without less retrictive breathing. Everything from the airfilter to the exhaust tip would have to change to really take advantage of it. Thats certainly more money then i am willing to spend.

daily drive huh - 15% pully, 2% crank pulley, AGS, DFIC, header, exhaust & boost guage.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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I haven't looked over this whole thread but thought I would share what my plans are as I will have a similar budget to work with and my car is also a daily driver.

Alta CAI $230
Alta 17% Pulley $115
Detriot Tuned BPV $130
Denso Iridium IK22 Plugs $70
Lightened 2% Crank Pulley $170
MTH Tuner File $350
Milltek Header $1000
Milltek Cat-Back $650

EDIT: You could substitute the M7 DFIC for the Header and subtract the Alta CAI and DT BPV in lieu of the M7 AGS.

Brings the total to about $2700. Granted slightly over budget but I'm sure you can find some decent deals on the used market.

That should, theoretically, bring you to about 200whp. I think.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
Honestly, in your current budget, there's no room for a header of any variety, if you're looking for the highest ROI.
Disagree - $200.00 OBX header is the only resonable ROI when it comes to headers.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Disagree - $200.00 OBX header is the only resonable ROI when it comes to headers.
I agree on the apparent value of the OBX.

Don't agree on whether or not it makes any appreciable difference at the point he has his car now.

No ROI whatsoever, from my viewpont, if it's a barely (if at all) noticeable difference.

Other than the Bling factor he mentioned, and that's a whole 'nother story.

But that's just my opinion and it probably isn't worth arguing about.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
I agree on the apparent value of the OBX.

Don't agree on whether or not it makes any appreciable difference at the point he has his car now.

No ROI whatsoever, from my viewpont, if it's a barely (if at all) noticeable difference.

Other than the Bling factor he mentioned, and that's a whole 'nother story.

But that's just my opinion and it probably isn't worth arguing about.
No argument Hornguy, I just think based on this first round of performance mods a header is worth adding if added correctly - $200.00. I found the header addition to be noticeable on the TQ side and that that TQ is desireable for daily street. With 2,600 budget would I budget a 700 header, absolutely not but the value of the obx ($200) permits the addition without having to sacrific another mod.

Its fun sprending others people money
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart

Its fun sprending others people money
I need to start doing that!!!

Been spending mine.

And even that's fun.

But the horizon is fast approaching.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
I need to start doing that!!!

Been spending mine.

And even that's fun.

But the horizon is fast approaching.
boy, ain't that the truth
 
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